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Mystery Missile Launch Seen off Calif. Coast
CBS News ^ | 11/9/10 | CBS

Posted on 11/09/2010 8:05:31 AM PST by Gennie

(CBS) A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS's cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.

KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts.

Scroll down for KFMB video showing the launch.

Video here

"It's spectacular… It takes people's breath away," said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, "a big missile".

Magnificent images were captured by the KCBS news helicopter in L.A. around sunset Monday evening. The location of the missile was about 35 miles out to sea, west of L.A. and north of Catalina Island.

A Navy spokesperson told KFMB it wasn't their missile. He said there was no Navy activity reported in the area Monday evening.

On Friday night, Vandenberg Air Force Base, in California, launched a Delta II rocket, carrying an Italian satellite into orbit, but a sergeant at the base told KFMB there had been no launches since then.

Ellsworth urged American to wait for definitive answers to come from the military.

When asked, however, what he thought it might be, the former ambassador said it could possibly have been a missile test timed as a demonstration of American military might as President Obama tours Asia.

"It could be a test-firing of an intercontinental ballistic missile from a submarine … to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that," speculated Ellsworth.

Ellsworth said such tests were carried out in the Atlantic to demonstrate America's power to the Soviets, when there was a Soviet Union, but he doesn't believe an ICBM has previously been tested by the U.S. over the Pacific.

Officially, at least, the projectile remains a mystery missile.


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1 posted on 11/09/2010 8:05:39 AM PST by Gennie
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To: Gennie

Just NASA doing some Muslim outreach. Nothing to see here.


2 posted on 11/09/2010 8:08:12 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Gennie

Breaking news,it has already been posted 5 or 6 times so far this morning....


3 posted on 11/09/2010 8:09:31 AM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: Gennie

“... to demonstrate, mainly to Asia, that we can do that,”...”

Well, ain’t that special? Haven’t we been lobbing ICBM’s from nuke subs for years? What’s there to prove to anybody? We CAN do it. And we’ve been doing it for decades. If Asia hasn’t gotten that memo yet, they never will.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 8:10:07 AM PST by NCC-1701 (HEY, NAZI PELOUSY, ON NOVEMBER 2, WE WILL DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Gennie

That may have been a launch (show of force) from a Russian or Chinese submarine.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 8:10:17 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: NCC-1701

Maybe it wasn’t us this time.


6 posted on 11/09/2010 8:10:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Gennie
the former ambassador said it could possibly have been a missile test timed as a demonstration of American military might

Now, THAT one we can exclude outright. We don't do "might" anymore.

7 posted on 11/09/2010 8:11:47 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: GeronL

That’s what I was thinking, too. Or it is US testing (and they’re not admitting it). Strange days.


8 posted on 11/09/2010 8:12:28 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Not under the influence of Hope-nosis.)
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To: GSP.FAN

First time I’ve seen it, some of us don’t live on FR and so we appreciate re-posting of some articles, this one seems important. As to the “speculation” by Ellsworth that this might be a show of muscle in order to show India that we can actually fire a ballistic missile off of a some, that is BS, this has been done so many times in the past that anyone who doubts it must be a total idiot. Maybe Bozo didn’t think we could actually fire one and wanted to see how it looked, that I could believe, he is a total dumb a**.


9 posted on 11/09/2010 8:12:51 AM PST by calex59
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To: Gennie

You did not see what you saw. It was just fireworks or a meteor. Nothing to see here, move along.


10 posted on 11/09/2010 8:13:50 AM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Gennie
Ellsworth's speculation doesn't ring true to my ears. It makes no sense for a couple of reasons. Our capability to launch ICB's from submarines has been known for decades.

Of course, Obama could be showing off like a tin-pot dictator.

11 posted on 11/09/2010 8:15:31 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Gennie

Just Nancy having a final fun fling with the military equipment.

Next week she plans an Abrams tank demolition derby.


12 posted on 11/09/2010 8:15:37 AM PST by Happy Rain ("So this is how a black man leads America.")
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To: Happy Rain; All

“The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.”


13 posted on 11/09/2010 8:16:15 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Auntie Mame

I saw it, video taped it. When I realized what it could do, I understand why the gov’t doesn’t want to comment on it. That’s all that I should say.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 8:18:15 AM PST by Restore
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To: Gennie
A Navy spokesperson told KFMB it wasn't their missile. He said there was no Navy activity reported in the area Monday evening.

Nope, wasn't ours, don't have a clue. We're not concerned though, no increased activity, no DEFCON 3, probably just kids...

It's the nonchalance that says so much.

15 posted on 11/09/2010 8:20:15 AM PST by Sax
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Muzzie Oblakcracka is in indonesia playing with the football.

Hey Moosechell looky what i can do...lets barely miss Hawaii.

He’s bored already. Ah the life of a King.


16 posted on 11/09/2010 8:20:46 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: Gennie

Of course it could have been us, but we have such a loose-lipped leadership that these days hardly anything takes place in secret. Usually we’re spilling our guts about everything we do.

If it wasn’t ours, we should have sunk it.

I found it interesting to see that (military?) helicopter in the foreground in some of the footage.

Curious.


17 posted on 11/09/2010 8:20:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (BHO fans said I was a hater, dismissed my thoughts. Sure glad our side isn't like that.)
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To: Restore

You should be on cable being interviewed by Jesse Ventura.


18 posted on 11/09/2010 8:21:35 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Restore

I won’t believe it till I see it on YouTube(/s)


19 posted on 11/09/2010 8:21:36 AM PST by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin B)
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To: All

I just want everyone to know that what we actually saw couldn’t have reached 13,000 feet, wasn’t actually a missile trail, and didn’t take down the aircr...

Oh wait. Nevermind.


20 posted on 11/09/2010 8:23:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (BHO fans said I was a hater, dismissed my thoughts. Sure glad our side isn't like that.)
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To: GSP.FAN

Hadn’t seen it yet an appreciate it being posted again.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 8:24:06 AM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012y)
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To: Gennie
Ellsworth said such tests were carried out in the Atlantic to demonstrate America's power to the Soviets, when there was a Soviet Union, but he doesn't believe an ICBM has previously been tested by the U.S. over the Pacific.

Government schools... either for the reporter or Ellsworth.

22 posted on 11/09/2010 8:26:19 AM PST by RingerSIX (Better dead than red.)
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To: All

Well, it came out of the sky
Landed just a little shy
From Moline...
Jody fell out of his tractor
Couldn’t believe what he seen....


23 posted on 11/09/2010 8:26:45 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: GeronL

Firing a missile that close to us could have caused us to launch back.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 8:26:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: GeronL

I’ve thought about that. But then, if it was some other country, why would the US government deny that it was a US missile? Wouldn’t they just pull the ‘nothing to be alarmed about, its our missile, move along’ line? I mean, if a rival nation was launching missiles 35 miles off the US coast, why would the military even leave the issue open to speculation thst it could be such?


25 posted on 11/09/2010 8:26:51 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: GeronL

That wouldn’t be good...


26 posted on 11/09/2010 8:26:57 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: GeronL

“That may have been a launch (show of force) from a Russian or Chinese submarine.”

Not unimaginable.

9/11/10

“Russia, China sign military cooperation protocol”

“Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and the head of China’s Central Military Commission, Guo Boxiong, on Tuesday signed an agreement on developing military cooperation between the two states.

“First of all, it concerns contracts to supply spare parts for air defense systems, aviation and navy equipment,” the minister’s spokeswoman said.

The document was signed during a meeting of the Russian-Chinese intergovernmental commission on military cooperation in Beijing.”

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101109/161260856.html


27 posted on 11/09/2010 8:32:36 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."-S. Johnson)
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To: Gennie

They changed the locks, so don’t bother coming back.


28 posted on 11/09/2010 8:33:34 AM PST by granite (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. - TJ)
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To: Gennie

You have to wonder if it was North Korea tweaking Obummer as they did when it was speculated that a North Korean Sub blew up the Oil Rig in the Gulf. You never know what the real truth is since the Feds are quiet on this missle launch.


29 posted on 11/09/2010 8:33:51 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Gennie

Where are the football codes? Clinton lost em, I’m guessing Obama would give em, not just lose em, to his Muslim brothers.


30 posted on 11/09/2010 8:34:15 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Gennie

ABL has been testing in southern Cal for a few weeks.Probably related to that.


31 posted on 11/09/2010 8:34:40 AM PST by quack ("Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.")
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To: Celtic Cross

Good point. Its just speculation of course.


32 posted on 11/09/2010 8:34:54 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Gennie; All

Why is the US NAVY Denying this???

Catalina Island is their back yard....I’ve spent a lot of time in the area and they are present there a lot.


33 posted on 11/09/2010 8:36:51 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Lazamataz

Dont we practice launches, real live tests, of one thing or another, from time to time?

Anyone have anything fall on their houses last night?


34 posted on 11/09/2010 8:37:25 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: 444Flyer

scary scenario.

Obama’s government would cave light a wet noodle.

do wet noodles cave?


35 posted on 11/09/2010 8:38:37 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: quack

Lets hope its just an anti-ballistic missile test


36 posted on 11/09/2010 8:39:55 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Gennie

No one seems to know “who” launched it but there is no record of our military reacting or responding or scrambling defenses after it happened.


37 posted on 11/09/2010 8:42:02 AM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: Gennie

Sounds like another Fort Hood type Muslim nut going all jihadist on a Navy Ship.

If this is the case,we won’t find out anything until the incident can be PC whitewashed.


38 posted on 11/09/2010 8:42:23 AM PST by Happy Rain ("So this is how a black man leads America.")
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To: GSP.FAN

“Breaking news,it has already been posted 5 or 6 times so far this morning....”

Where? This is the first time I saw it. If this wasn’t in “Breaking News,” I would not have known about it.


39 posted on 11/09/2010 8:44:43 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Gennie

It is a contrail. It is all a matter of perspective. It isn’t the first time that such a contrail has caused confusion.

http://contrailscience.com/a-problem-of-perspective-in-the-oc-new-years-eve-contrail/

Think about it? No ballistic missile is launched without a NOTAM (Notice to Airman) being issued. There is a whole issue of flight safety for all concerned. Also think about an unannounced launch of a ballistic missile. It isn’t going to go unnoticed by the likes of Russia with their space based and ground based ballistic missile warning systems. For the Russians it would be considered a rogue launch. Strict protocol is in force between the US and Russia to avoid such a misinterpretation.


40 posted on 11/09/2010 8:44:48 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Gennie

Chicom?
Rooskie?


41 posted on 11/09/2010 8:46:10 AM PST by MistrX
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To: DoughtyOne
I found it interesting to see that (military?) helicopter in the foreground in some of the footage.

I saw that too, and throw in the fact that CBS just happened to have a camera pointed in that direction, and I suspect that someone in the military tipped off CBS to get the word out without officially getting the word out. The big question is why?

42 posted on 11/09/2010 8:49:35 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Halgr

“Why is the US NAVY Denying this???”

Because they didn’t have anything to do with it.

Sad, some posters think denial is proof of a cover-uo, and lack of proof is proof of how good the cover-uo actually is.


43 posted on 11/09/2010 8:49:49 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly. That is why it is not a ballistic missile contrail.

It is an aircraft contrail and it isn’t the first time that such a lit contrail has caused this confusion.

The conspiracy nuts have claimed a similar launch a few days ago in the US and provided images. It is a simple case of perspective. As an aviation enthusiast I’ve seen several aircraft contrails that appear to rise from the horizon. It is all about perspective.


44 posted on 11/09/2010 8:49:54 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: TheThinker
"Obama could be showing off like a tin-pot dictator."

Or the Pentagon could be showing off to Hussein as to who has control of the military?

45 posted on 11/09/2010 8:50:22 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Gennie

WTF?


46 posted on 11/09/2010 8:51:23 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Hulka

If it wasn’t the Navy then we have a huge problem....bigger than you could possibly imagine.


47 posted on 11/09/2010 8:52:20 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Restore

hmmm..


48 posted on 11/09/2010 8:52:51 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Tommyjo

You’re wrong....that was not an aircraft contrail.


49 posted on 11/09/2010 8:53:59 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Halgr

No problem bigger that Obama and all the elite establishment corruption he is hopefully the high water mark of.


50 posted on 11/09/2010 8:54:31 AM PST by bvw
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