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Proficiency of Black Students Is Found to Be Far Lower Than Expected
New York Times ^ | November 9, 2010 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 11/09/2010 10:24:07 AM PST by lbryce

An achievement gap separating black from white students has long been documented — a social divide extremely vexing to policy makers and the target of one blast of school reform after another.

But a new report focusing on black males suggests that the picture is even bleaker than generally known.

Only 12 percent of black fourth-grade boys are proficient in reading, compared with 38 percent of white boys, and only 12 percent of black eighth-grade boys are proficient in math, compared with 44 percent of white boys.

Poverty alone does not seem to explain the differences: poor white boys do just as well as African-American boys who do not live in poverty, measured by whether they qualify for subsidized school lunches.

The data was distilled from highly respected national math and reading tests, known as the National Assessment for Educational Progress, which are given to students in fourth and eighth grades, most recently in 2009. The report, “A Call for Change,” is to be released Tuesday by the Council of the Great City Schools, an advocacy group for urban public schools.

Although the outlines of the problem and many specifics have been previously reported, the group hopes that including so much of what it calls “jaw-dropping data” in one place will spark a new sense of national urgency.

“What this clearly shows is that black males who are not eligible for free and reduced-price lunch are doing no better than white males who are poor,” said Michael Casserly, executive director of the council.

The report shows that black boys on average fall behind from their earliest years.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: achievementgap; africanamericans; arth; bellcurve; billcosby; blacks; dontsayit; education; racist
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Come on. Who are you kidding by acting coy about why proficiency of black students are far lower than average..

(whisper)shhh:It's because of the white man, don't you know,

1 posted on 11/09/2010 10:24:15 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Bush’s fault


2 posted on 11/09/2010 10:25:25 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: lbryce

The last 25 years they have done everything they could to make all kids, whites too, as stupid as possible.


3 posted on 11/09/2010 10:25:50 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: lbryce

W’s fault. W’s da MAN.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 10:26:11 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: lbryce

Welp, it must be genetic then.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 10:27:10 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: lbryce
Public school is child abuse, would anyone expect differently?
6 posted on 11/09/2010 10:27:10 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: lbryce

None dare speak the truth


7 posted on 11/09/2010 10:27:36 AM PST by Lexington Green (Bring Our Troops Home - Send The Democrats)
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To: lbryce

8 posted on 11/09/2010 10:27:36 AM PST by SC DOC
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To: lbryce
This is a direct result of the mainstream culture's lionization of single mothers.

Single-Parent Family = Inferior Academic Performance

9 posted on 11/09/2010 10:28:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: lbryce

Simple. The black hip-hop culture has a hostile attitude towards education. Uncool to be “actin’ white”.


10 posted on 11/09/2010 10:28:37 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: lbryce

Where’s the “That’s Racist” kid?


11 posted on 11/09/2010 10:28:46 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: lbryce
If that isn't sufficient reason to abolish the NEA then nothing is!
12 posted on 11/09/2010 10:29:31 AM PST by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: lbryce
"Proficiency of Black Students Is Found to Be Far Lower Than Expected""

No kidding.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 10:29:31 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: lbryce

This is news to be breathlessly pronounced by the NY Times as a shocking new discovery? This has been documented billions of times. As far back as The Bell Curve they dissected IQ scores and school performance. IIRC, the poorest quintile of whites outperformed the wealthiest quintile of blacks by one standard deviation. Check my numbers, but they won’t be far off.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 10:30:27 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: lbryce
An achievement gap separating black from white students has long been documented — a social divide extremely vexing to policy makers and the target of one blast of school reform after another.

It's an 'ambition gap', studying isn't 'keepin' it real.'

15 posted on 11/09/2010 10:31:05 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Score!!! Round-Up couldn’t kill all the weed in that boy’s body.


16 posted on 11/09/2010 10:31:24 AM PST by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Lexington Green

That’s part of the problem. If the truth were spoken, you would be called a racist.


17 posted on 11/09/2010 10:31:31 AM PST by RC2
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To: lbryce
Only 12 percent of black fourth-grade boys are proficient in reading, compared with 38 percent of white boys,

38% is nothing to write home about either.

18 posted on 11/09/2010 10:31:59 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: lbryce

Fairness demands that we stop educating white boys until the coloreds catch up. Oh, I see, you’re already doing that. Splendid! Carry on!


19 posted on 11/09/2010 10:32:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Go Packers!)
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To: lbryce; SortaBichy

It’s because the testing is administered in white English.....check out some of the crime shows, and you’ll see all the subtitles which are needed for understanding the lingo being spoken in ‘The Community’.


20 posted on 11/09/2010 10:33:57 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It is hard to pass a test if it is written in the King’s English and not ebonics. I am sure the numbers are just as low for hispanics if English is not the dominant language spoken at home.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 10:34:19 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: lbryce

‘sup wit dat?


22 posted on 11/09/2010 10:35:32 AM PST by CDFingers (0bama calls me the enemy, but won't do the same with terrorist.)
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To: All
Where are groups like the NAACP, what are folks like Squeezeee In-fom-mmee, doing about this?? Why have they failed their own people? The silence is deafening. What an outrageous morally bankrupt organization!!

These people should never be allowed to speak with any sense of indignation about how society has failed them. Where are all the demagogues, Al Sharpton, FarraKant, and their ilk? Shame on all of you.

23 posted on 11/09/2010 10:37:10 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce
Even lower than expected?... How much lower?.. And are they accurate?..
They were Not accurate the first time, how can you believe them NOW?...

Maybe the teachers are much dumber than the students.. YA!.. Think!..

24 posted on 11/09/2010 10:38:27 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: GeronL

So has the decline in white performance been matched by a decline in black performance? Or have the white kids just not declined enough to catch up?


25 posted on 11/09/2010 10:38:34 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: lbryce
They are not doing well educating white boys either. "Only 12 percent of black fourth-grade boys are proficient in reading, compared with 38 percent of white boys, and only 12 percent of black eighth-grade boys are proficient in math, compared with 44 percent of white boys."
26 posted on 11/09/2010 10:39:02 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: SC DOC
The Bell Curve ——

And if you are 1/2 White & 1/2 Black = 1/2 A Bell !!!!

27 posted on 11/09/2010 10:39:02 AM PST by TRY ONE (Another Beer Summit.....another day in Debt)
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To: lbryce
"... Although the outlines of the problem and many specifics have been previously reported, the group hopes that including so much of what it calls “jaw-dropping data” in one place will spark a new sense of national urgency."

How come my jaw isn't dropping?

(Just my saying that caused liberals to drop their jaws.)

28 posted on 11/09/2010 10:41:13 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: ModelBreaker

Its a race to the bottom, thats all I know.


29 posted on 11/09/2010 10:41:18 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: lbryce

When test after test all shows the same thing, it’s time to start thinking about what the tests show.


30 posted on 11/09/2010 10:42:06 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: kalee

Hmm....Any guesses on why it wasn’t written the other way ‘round?


31 posted on 11/09/2010 10:43:23 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: lbryce

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve

The Bell Curve.

It’s all in there.


32 posted on 11/09/2010 10:44:09 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RC2

“That’s part of the problem. If the truth were spoken, you would be called a racist.”

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
- George Orwell

“Don’t matter how much you spend on your sawmill, you can’t cut good lumber from bad timber.”
- Grumpy


33 posted on 11/09/2010 10:44:09 AM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: lbryce

It’s cause Whitey’s had his foot on the black man’s neck for 500 years.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 10:44:42 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Dude, your I-pod isn't a karaoke machine.)
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To: All

Anyone surprised?
Lowered expectations...


35 posted on 11/09/2010 10:44:55 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: ModelBreaker

I saw my neice’s history notes... ‘Joan of Arc “won” the Hundred Years War’ I almost thought I’d laugh to death. She must have thought that was the gist of what her teacher said because the text clearly stated that Joan of Arc “inspired” French troops with her faith (in one battle) and they won the battle of Orleans before she was captured by the English and turned over to the Inquisition.

The war lasted more than 20 more years.

....

Seriously though.... Molly Pritchard did more for the cause.


36 posted on 11/09/2010 10:45:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: lbryce

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37 posted on 11/09/2010 10:46:28 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: lbryce
Well, gee..... 78% of black kids don't have a married mother, and a lot of them live in a hideously toxic culture that celebrates thuggery and promiscuity as the highest form of achievement.

I know some teachers who work with kids in that sort of demographic, and some of those kids come from situations the awfulness of which is hair-raising -- they're doing well just to show up; proficiency in reading and math is strictly secondary to just being in a place where they can eat breakfast and not have to hide from mom's latest "boyfriend."

38 posted on 11/09/2010 10:46:41 AM PST by r9etb
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The last 25 years they have done everything they could to make all kids, whites too, as stupid as possible.

The last 45 ...

39 posted on 11/09/2010 10:47:06 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: SC DOC
I've had positive feelings about the notion of The Bell Curve. John Taylor Gatto mostly disabused me of these. Read his Underground History of American Education. (Amazon link) (free pdf copy link You can probably search this pdf for references to Bell Curve and/or Murray.)

ML/NJ

40 posted on 11/09/2010 10:51:06 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: lbryce

“Black mothers have a higher infant mortality rate and black children are twice as likely as whites to live in a home where no parent has a job. “

The solution is simple. Just assign every black mother a white husband.

Why does the NYT never come up with creative solutions?


41 posted on 11/09/2010 10:51:21 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: lbryce
Only 12 percent of black fourth-grade boys are proficient in reading, compared with 38 percent of white boys

The buried the lead!

The lead is: Only 38% of white fourth-grade boys are proficient in reading!

Sub-lead is Black fare worse.

Incredible and disgusting.

42 posted on 11/09/2010 10:51:33 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: CholeraJoe
Solution simple. Just get rid of the white boys...

Look in your public school text books and you will NOT FIND A PICTURE of a European American male teenager. Unless they're CRIPPLED!

43 posted on 11/09/2010 10:51:58 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: lbryce
there was an article out the other day stating close to 80% of black births were to unwed mothers. That statistic leads to many if not most of modern societal problems, this story being one of them. Hispanics were close behind.

I believe the white births were over 50% to unwed mothers.

This growing problem may be the real trojan horse leading to the downfall of a once thriving nation.

44 posted on 11/09/2010 10:52:44 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ml/nj

Black kids did good in school in NYC when they went to the dozen or so Catholic schools.


45 posted on 11/09/2010 10:52:44 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: lbryce

Well, if we could go back to the old days when more black babies were born into stable nuclear families with both parents present (and who tended to have traditional values as good or better that white families), and got to see blacks who benefited from academic achievement on a more regular basis, maybe that wouldn’t be the case.


46 posted on 11/09/2010 10:53:07 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: lbryce
"...78% of black kids don't have a married mother, and a lot of them live in a hideously toxic culture that celebrates thuggery and promiscuity as the highest form of achievement."

Only Bill Cosby was brave enough to identify this as the root cause of this problem and he was ignored or vilified by the Black community. This is the problem that needs to be addressed and Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all the other professional race hustlers could care less.

47 posted on 11/09/2010 10:55:31 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: ml/nj

Black kids did good in school in NYC when they went to the dozen or so Catholic schools.


48 posted on 11/09/2010 10:56:39 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Paladin2

I think it’s more a cultural thing. The performance of West-Indies born blacks versus US born blacks the West-Indies born blacks do very well.


49 posted on 11/09/2010 10:57:16 AM PST by bkepley
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To: The KG9 Kid
(Just my saying that caused liberals to drop their jaws.)

They're thinking of all the money "we" should spend.

50 posted on 11/09/2010 10:58:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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