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Pentagon Can't Explain Missile Off California
AOL News ^ | 10/11/10 | Pauline Jelinek

Posted on 11/10/2010 10:59:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5

WASHINGTON -The Pentagon said Tuesday it did not know what created a vapor trail that crossed the skies off the Southern California coast and resembled a missile launch. Video posted on the CBS News website shows an object flying through the evening sky Monday that left a large contrail, or vapor trail. A news helicopter owned by KCBS, a CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, shot the video. Pentagon officials were stumped by the event. "Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said. While the vapor cloud captured on video resembled that created by a rocket in flight, military officials said they didn't know of any launches in the area. Lapan said that "all indications" were that the Defense Department was not involved with the object. One expert called it an optical illusion. "It's an airplane that is heading toward the camera and the contrail is illuminated by the setting sun," said John Pike, director of the U.S.-based security analyst group globalsecurity.org. The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no details. "We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation," the statement said. "We will provide more information as it becomes available."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agitprop; aluminumfoilsale; awe808; california; californiamissile; contrail; missile; mysterymissile; othatmissile; pentagon; tinfoilbrigade; whatmissile
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To: Eleutheria5
Airplane from Dec 31 2009 on the right:

Dec 31 2009 airplane again:

Flight 808 the following day:

Airplane:

Cool video of alleged rocket:

http://www.necn.com/11/09/10/Mysterious-missile-launched-off-Californ/landing_scitech.html?blockID=348833&feedID=4213

61 posted on 11/10/2010 12:15:10 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: RobRoy

Who is is Unicus? Why are you quoting an ANONYMOUS BLOGGER and BLOG as gospel?


62 posted on 11/10/2010 12:16:18 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: wrench

Yeas they are only problem is some of us refuse to play mushrooms


63 posted on 11/10/2010 12:16:24 PM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CodeToad

Polish crop duster.........


64 posted on 11/10/2010 12:16:57 PM PST by blackdog
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To: jimbo123
>>Please tell us why this “Unicus” is the almighty expert and spokesperson for the “It wasn’t a Missile” cult.<<

Yeah, that is how the MSM feels about the blogosphere.

Also, the side that is a cult is the "It WAS a missile!" group. I thought it was a missile at first. As I examined the evidence and looked up some of my old sources and went back to formula, it became OBVIOUS that it is nothing more than an airplane contrail.

It is no more a missile contrail than this is Mary:


65 posted on 11/10/2010 12:17:12 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: jimbo123

>>Why are you quoting an ANONYMOUS BLOGGER and BLOG as gospel?<<

Where is your evidence that I am quoting it as gospel?

And Buckhead was an “anonymous poster” but he still brought Dan Rather down. Sometimes the information speaks for itself and the source is not all that relevant. And sometimes the information qualifies the source.

Why do you think so many people trust the National Enquirer more than the NYT now? :)


66 posted on 11/10/2010 12:19:36 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

The “It wasn’t a missile” cult is quoting an ANONYMOUS Blogger and a BIRD PHOTOGRAPHER as their experts?

Aren’t you even a bit curious about their identities and their qualifications?


67 posted on 11/10/2010 12:21:39 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Who is is Unicus? Why are you quoting an ANONYMOUS BLOGGER and BLOG as gospel?

Are you suggesting that his identity is more relevant than the logic and supporting evidence for his arguments?

68 posted on 11/10/2010 12:22:55 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: RobRoy

Buckhead went public with his identity.

Unicus won’t.


69 posted on 11/10/2010 12:23:25 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: bereanway

The threat level has not been raised according to my daughter. She says that the Navy would know before the general public.


70 posted on 11/10/2010 12:23:37 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You will try to nudge commies toward the truth, while they try to nudge you toward the cattle cars.)
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To: Wissa

Aren’t you even curious about Unicus’s identity? Not even a little?


71 posted on 11/10/2010 12:24:30 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Why are you quoting an ANONYMOUS blogger and his/her blog as gospel? Who is this Unicus you are quoting as an expert? Does he or she have a real name? What are his/her credentials? Please tell us why this “Unicus” is the almighty expert and spokesperson for the “It wasn’t a Missile” cult.

I dunno who Unicus is, but he offers a good explanation with good photographic evidence. Plus everybody here on FR has seen jets and contrails before, and most have seen and can grasp how a jet flying toward you at high altitude on a flat trajectory can appear to be a missile flying straight up from a location on the ground. One doesn't need to be an aeronautics engineer or rocket scientist.

There are enough real threats in the world from the Chinese, Islamicists, Iranians, North Koreans, etc., for conservatives to not be chasing down contrails that look like SLBM launches.

72 posted on 11/10/2010 12:26:10 PM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: jimbo123

So that contrail should be on a regular schedule, present every day at the same time when wx conditions are favorable at that altitude. Which is most the time.


73 posted on 11/10/2010 12:26:43 PM PST by blackdog
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To: jimbo123

>>Buckhead went public with his identity.

Unicus won’t.<<

Not relevant. Unicus is merely one of many sources I discovered when investigating this. Again, my original thoughts were that it was, in fact, a missile. It really did not take much investigation to realize that it looked an awful lot like a contrail. Eventually it became obvious.

Case closed.

And it has nothing to do with Unicus. I just thought there was some good info there.


74 posted on 11/10/2010 12:28:25 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: jimbo123
Aren’t you even curious about Unicus’s identity? Not even a little?

I have no reason to be curious about that. Why would I be? It's totally irrelevant. Even if I were interested, he's given a good explanation on his site for why he chooses to remain anonymous.

75 posted on 11/10/2010 12:29:17 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: RetSignman
Good post. Aircraft contrails are not unified, there is a separate contrail for each engine so you see a combination of parallel contrails forming a flattened ribbon contrail.

Not so on this contrail, it is clearly from a single propulsion unit.

Also, this contrail is significantly more dense and opaque like the exhaust from a solid propellant rocket; pure water vapor contrails from a jet engine are more transparent and breakup at distance.

This object is moving very fast, there isn't enough lag time for the change in trajectory of the contrail to be explained by cross winds. However, a gimbled rocket motor makes exactly those kinds of trajectory corrections, particularly during the boost phase.

Also, planes fly parallel to the earth surface. If so, the object should be getting larger as the object approaches. But its not, its getting smaller because it's going up, not flying level.

Finally, I post on a pilot's blogsite and the dozen or so posters universally agree that it is not an aircraft contrail, too dense.

76 posted on 11/10/2010 12:30:07 PM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 8-1, Go Cowboys!)
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To: jimbo123

>>Aren’t you even curious about Unicus’s identity? Not even a little?<<

I’m not. I AM curious if the information on the site is accurate though. I think it is. At least the parts I read.

Unicus is not the only source.


77 posted on 11/10/2010 12:30:33 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: mbarker12474

Photographic evidence, but not video evidence from Unicus it appears.

Why the lack of curiosity into Unicus’s background and qualifications? Is it a man? Is it a woman? Is it a monkey?

It’s the same lack of curiosity into Obama’s background and qualifications that got us into the mess we’re into today.


78 posted on 11/10/2010 12:31:17 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: blackdog

>>So that contrail should be on a regular schedule, present every day at the same time when wx conditions are favorable at that altitude. Which is most the time.<<

Yep. See post 61.


79 posted on 11/10/2010 12:33:42 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
Unicus is not the only source.

I know. You people have been quoting a BIRD PHOTOGRAPHER and his blog as one of your "It wasn't a missile" experts.
80 posted on 11/10/2010 12:34:10 PM PST by jimbo123
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