Posted on 11/13/2010 7:00:00 AM PST by paul in cape
Watch their actions and votes. If they don’t vote with the GOP, TOAST in 2012.
He did not switch while in office.
As President Reagan said: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me.”
‘Once a democrat always a democrat’ is SO not true. I came out of UCBerkeley, very liberal, always voted Democrat. Voted for George Bush when I came out of the fog, because of his integrity. I had looked at Ralph Nader’s website that year (!!) thinking that I had always liked him, and realized that it was a load of hooey and that I didn’t believe any of that at all in any way.
Often a convert will be more convinced of his new stance because he has made the decision clearly, perhaps with gut-wrenching soul-searching. I say we welcome the converts. They know how the other side thinks, and they are ‘liberals mugged.’
Personally, it gives me hope to see this. I think it is a harbinger of things to come.
Like a home run hit by a visiting batter...
...THROW IT BACK!!!
We don’t want middle-of-the-road Demopublican and Republicrat Johnny-Come-Lately opportunistas watering down and confusing the agenda.
Let’s not make the same mistake as last time and drift toward the middle. We need to LEAD, dammit, not drift.
Tell him to get the hell back where he came from, NOW !!!!!
Wasn't Reagan a Democrat at one time?
Back then the ideological gulf that he crossed was not near as wide as it is today. A liberal Democrat could be found who still loved America as founded. What Reagan did was see the Democrat future and wanted no part of it. Today if you are a Democrat who still loves America as it was founded you are persona-non-grata in the Democrat party and must leave it to keep your sanity. The reason a person stays a Democrat is that they hate America and want to mutate it into something resembling the former Soviet Union.
Right you are. I would think about half of all Republicans in the South are former Democrats. Ironically, I was not aware that the Tea Party was following the lead of the John Birch Society and demanding loyalty oaths of its followers.
This is a pet peeve of mine. If you get elected as a Democrat, you stay a Democrat. If a Republican, you stay a Republican.
If you want to switch parties, do it before the election cycle— not pull a bait and switch as soon as you’re elected.
This is fraud, pure and simple. Thousands of people gave money to their party to help elect their representative— or, even worse, gave money directly to his campaign. He’s got an obligation to those constituents to fulfill that “contract”.
Listened to the Maine GOP response to the Gov’s weekly message and the GOPer (a legislator, forgot who) gave all the credit for the historic takeover of the legislative bodies and governorship to..... the GOP establishment. Yes, they got introspective and adjusted their message. Not a mention of Tea Party or the citizens.
Give him a chance. He has just set him self loose from his Dem shackles and may turn out to really be one of us. At least for now, we can hope.
Not to pile on, but “Ronaldus Magnus” wouldn’t have gotten through under your test, so how does that hekp us? I agree that it is generally problematic to accept party switchers, because such changes are normally nothing but self-serving opportunism, and you get what you pay for.
However, there is an important minority of cases that are the result of serious maturation of thought. They have really become convinced that the perspective of their old party is deeply flawed, and more importantly, they’ve seen those defects first hand, understand them from the inside, so they are totally inoculated against them, and are particularly good at opposing and defeating them. You don’t want to give up some of your best A-Team players if you don’t have to. I say we welcome everybody, but just like church, hold their feet to the fire if their “conversion” later fails to pass the test of genuineness.
Ronaldus Magnus and Phil Gramm were once Democrats....
Don’t be too hasty, there have been a few good conservatives come from the other side of the aisle. Reagan comes to mind.
Yeah, Ronald Reagan was suuuuch democrat/RINO!
So Richard Shelby is dead to you?
Agreed.
At the local level, things aren’t quite so ideologically clear. It’s whether to build a new road here or there, how to save the cost of two maintenance positions, how to get the state to do something that the county needs and has paid for with its taxes. So at the state legislature level it’s not always clearly liberal versus conservative. Even in some states like Wyoming, Democrat doesn’t mean liberal the same way as, say, Pennsylvania.
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