Posted on 11/13/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by Nachum
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will likely be held in military prison without a trial indefinitely as the Obama administration decides what to do with the 9/11 mastermind, according to a new report. A trial - civilian or military - is not expected to happen before the next presidential election, the Washington Post reported Saturday. The Obama administration apparently fears backlash will come from either decision.
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Not that I like KSM, isn’t indefinite detention without hope of trial unfair? It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen; the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.
Punt. The %^&#% can’t make a true executive decision to save his tail.
IIRC, didn’t Atty Gen Holder already predict with (pretend) confidence that ksm would get the death penalty?
Indefinite detention. The likely fate of most any POW (even if it is unlawful warfare that is waged against us)
I say string him up from the new Freedom tower......
You have to read between the lines, but basically Obama and Holder were gung-ho to hold a civilian trial in NYC and they were planning to go forward with it, despite the drubbing the Dems took in the election.
Then Chuck Schumer and Gov.-elect Cuomo paid a little visit to the WH and told Obama that there was no way that they were going to allow a KSM trial in Manhattan, and that if 0 insisted on going forward, that there would be some very unpleasant consequences. These weren't spelled out exactly, but I imagine it had something to do with helping make sure 0 is a one-term president.
So, 0, not wanting to provoke a public battle with fellow Dems from a super-blue state, has decided to shelve the trial for now, although he remains committed to it in principle.
——It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen
Pointless comment. He is not a citizen.
-—the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.
We should observe the directly governing ‘law’ which is the
Geneva Convention, under which KSM merited immediate execution and lacking that - military tribunals.
What? No public trial in Manhattan for KSM during the 2012 election cycle. Sarah was right - no cojones.
Day one in office he announces that Gitmo is closing in 12 months! Then to show his resolve he spends a Billion Dollars on a used prison in Illinois to convert to Gitmo North. Of course we know that Gitmo is still open and the used prison is still closed.
After running on a platform that Bush was evil because its cruel to keep guys locked up in Gitmo indefinitely while declaring the Military Tribunals were evil his stooge Attorney General Holder announces that KSM will be tried in NY. After a shocked reaction from the City of NY, Ohaha decides to put that suggestion on hold and seek other solutions.
So now within weeks of the 2 year anniversary of Bamsters Gitmo closing party where do we stand.
1. Ohaha is still against military trials.
2. Obama refuses to have a trial in NY, so he chooses to keep KSM locked up forever!
Yep I agree with Ohaha, it isn't that the American people are against his decisions, they just have done a poor job explaining them to us. Thank God Ohaha is really good at making trade agreements with Asian nations or we would be in real trouble.
That’s just fine: for the rest of his sorry life. Because I fear our “leaders” would never find the courage to execute him in any case.
Sounds like a ‘present’ vote to me.
Anti-Bush mania at a lull.
I don’t believe a word of it.
“Not that I like KSM, isn’t indefinite detention without hope of trial unfair? It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen; the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.”
My first thot as well. But now we even have US citizens on O’s hit list ... what a mess. I’m waiting for the ACLU to chime in. There is lots of money to be made here for someone. I should have become an attorney. Bill the taxpayers and get rich on this one case. Paging Mr. Edwards. Would John Edwards pick up the red phone, please.
The way I have always looked at it, KSM is a terrorist who should have been shot on sight. Since that didn’t happen, it is to our benefit that we consider him be a soldier of sorts.
He is a part of Al Quaeda’s declared war on western civilization. A war that will never end, and without a specific country/ governemnt that would ever have the authority to surrender on behalf of all jihadists.
Therefore, he would always remain ineligible for repatriation, even if he were someone who we had little evidence against. He is the enemy in a current war, and he serves an entity that cannot offer a conclusion in an internationally recognized “state based” sense. I.e. it leaves him in permanent limbo
Would we have repatriated German soldiers during WWII, if that war were still being fought today? No. They would still be POW’s.
As for a fair trial, it is more than any one of these createns deserve. That is, unless it’s sure to end in execution. If there’s a chance we wouldn’t get that verdict, we should hold them in a dark prison forever or until Mohammed presents himself to offer a written surrender on their behalf.
Can you believe this?
The next pubbie candidate will certainly be able to gripe about the many, many, big messes left to him/her by Obama.
Keep that car in the ditch, big O!
You are doing a great job. Not.
“But he MADE it.”
I realized the importance of being willing to make decisions long ago. And I am bad at that.
I worked in an ice cream store in NYC. People would come in with odd requests. Like - can you give/sell me paper cups.
I would never know what to do. But I had a co-worker who’d say “5 cents each”, take the money and put it in the drawer.
It may sound silly, but I really admired her for that. It was a lesson to me.
Too bad Obama never had a real job, like working in an ice cream store.
The Bamster votes Present again.
Here’s an out for the administration: declare the Shaikh an extremely late trimester fetus give his mother a retroactive partial birth abortion.
Win-Win all the way around. The moose gets his Virgin frequent flayer rewards. Bamster chalks up another one for “reproductive freedom”, and the enemy (Republicans, Americans) are finally satisfied.
What a wonderful cap to the “The American people are cowards” rant by Holder and Obama’s ability to sell anybody anything anytime persona.
The next President should give the order to take his plea and fulfill his wish to try collection on the 72 virgins. He/she should be the one to give the order to proceed at the execution just to make it perfectly clear who is in charge. Then have the rest of the scum being held in an assembly line parade to join the same heap under the gallows.
The next step would be to repopulate Gitmo as the war proceeds and end the silliness of the unending legal hassles by giving the Military Tribunals clear passage to do what they do. Those who do not meet the test for execution should be sent to the newly constructed prison on the edge of the artic circle for a life sentence to hard labor.
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