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TEA Party Groups Playing With Fire (Vanity)
TCH | November 15, 2010 | TCH

Posted on 11/15/2010 3:06:08 PM PST by TCH

Idiocy has its claws in the TEA Party movement!

I am a founding member of the TEA Party Patriots of SW Nebraska. I sure as hell do not approve of the recently released letter demanding that Republicans jettison "social issues!" Our group was never informed and had no input!

Ditch "social issues," that we may better focus on the economic issues? Is that so? I believe it is time for a TEA Party reality check.

You cannot promote prosperity at the expense of morality. One requires the other. God is not mocked. The Constitution may be document of incredible insight, but it is not supreme over God’s Law. Freedom requires responsible behavior... Abortion and sodomy do not qualify, and ignoring the consequences of both will result in our downfall.

Everything that affects society is a "social issue," but we are allowing ourselves to be deceived by the utopian nonsense that is Libertarianism. We do so at our peril. These individuals use the term "Social issues." WRONG! We are arguing moral and ethical issues. So what these individuals are actually stating is they want a government bereft of ethics and morality. GIVE US BREAD AND CIRCUSES!

From the beginning I stated my group is not going to be hijacked by Libertarians, and for good reason: Only fools jettison morality and ethics from government. Libertarians claim to “restore” the Constitution, while they march lock-step with the tenets of the Communist Manifesto. Libertarianism is nothing less than veiled Utopianism—a deadly poison to any ordered society, because its precepts mock God’s Law. While the Libertarian advocates the Constitution, he simultaneously disconnects its FIRST CAUSE, as stated in the Declaration of Independence: All men are endowed by THEIR CREATOR with an inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE and LIBERTY. There we have the crux of the issue. Those who established our government did so with the understanding that we are “created beings,” owing our life and liberty to a Creator, and therefore our first allegiance resulting from those created gifts must belong to the higher power. That fact explicitly requires a recognition of and obedience to transcendent moral laws established by that same Creator. However, according to the submitted “letter” endorsed by our State TEA Party leader, we should now acquiesce not to the Creator, but to men who are double-minded and thus unstable in all their ways! Thinking themselves wise they became as fools!

Notice the top signatory to this letter of “demands:” GOProud ... PROUD homosexuals of the GOP! Nice company we keep for the sake of "filthy lucre." Sacrificing moral principles under the pretense of "fiscal conservatism" will not save this country... I doubt any man of sound reason would believe in such nonsense. Abortion and homosexuality cost money: increased healthcare costs, increased insurance premiums, lost tax base, etc.

If a man fails to understand the most basic right, life, then why should we trust him with power? Such a man will give his assent to anything. What this “letter” actually states is that we want our liberty, but we do not want to pay for the consequences of its abuse! That is not liberty, it is licentiousness.

Perhaps the signatories to this "compact" do not grasp the concept that “social” issues COST THE TAXPAYER MONEY! Who pays for abortion? How many abortions are covered by insurance or government welfare? How many more may we expect via Obamacare? Consider the loss of national productivity that must be attributed to the increase in abortions--We are barely maintaining replacement population (mostly through illegal immigration); so what happens when all the baby boomers retire, and America’s workforce (ages 17-60) is reduced to a mere 14 percent of the population? Thank you to all those who demand we not consider abortion a front and center issue! They are contributing to the destruction of our culture and the downfall of our country! Oh, but wait.... they will decrease the size of government in the process! Blind fools!

Now let us turn the focus on the costs of homosexual perversion. Yes, there is a defined “normalcy” in sexuality... homosexual acts do not fall within that scope. All sexual perversion causes disease, but the homosexual variety produces a plethora of fatal infections, and not just those associated with AIDS. A great many more “nasty things” inhabit the bodies of homosexuals and lesbians as a direct result of their perverted sexual practices. If we ignore “social issues, ” then how will the unobstructed rise of these diseases impact medical care and insurance costs for those who live within the bounds of normal sexual behavior--particularly with the advent of socialized medicine--and the insistence that “pre-existing conditions” not be excluded from coverage or considered a dis-qualifier?

Libertarianism is like the Siren who attempts to convince the sailor there are no jagged rocks beneath those calm waters... A nation cannot separate social from fiscal issues... one entails the other. You cannot separate morality from government... one requires the other. Amoral or immoral men cannot govern themselves:

In 'A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly,' 1791, Edmund Burke wrote: “What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without restraint. Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as they are disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good in preference to the flattery of knaves.”

Edmund Burke continued: “Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

Libertarians argue a "non-interference" perspective; but their rationale is a straw man argument. The issue is not about those who have an inclination to same-sex attraction. However unfortunate for them, it is a personal struggle, through which they must affect a strong combat for reasons of physiological, psychological and sociological necessity.

The issue is the propagation of an intrinsically destructive doctrine that opposes life and the common good. Even if we put aside the moral imperative—which act would constitute the greatest of errors, since the moral code is a product of sound reason and marks the boundaries of that singularly most quoted imperative “love thy neighbor”—it will still be proven that anything directed against its own natural purpose is contrary to right reason.

The two sexes are specifically designed so their physiological, biological and psychological aspects are mutually beneficial. Male and female complement one another, in all regards, to the natural end that their anatomy was specifically designed to affect: procreation of the species. This natural end logically supposes an intended purpose consistent with intelligent design.

Homosexual behavior is absolute in its destruction of that purpose. Understanding that “a house divided against itself cannot stand,” it is reasonable to state that Nature does not work against itself. By logical extension, and since all things must have a first cause, then neither would an intelligent supreme being create an natural order having as a component of its initial design a species directed to its own demise.

Reason and logic dictate that whenever any object is directed against its own natural purpose, then that object is intrinsically disordered. Since the design of male and female reproductive anatomy gives irrefutable evidence to its intended purpose, it is an attack on reason to presume that biology would be so rebellious of its own preservation as to willingly submit to an ends contrary to that which affords its greatest chance of success.

Homosexual behavior acts in direct opposition to the propagation of life, both directly in its physical acts, and psychologically by subverting the natural order of creation. It is anti-life, just as much as is abortion. Being unable to sustain itself through procreation, it may increase its numbers only by seduction--a point that the doctrine of libertarian thought purposely ignores, and which has a direct impact on society at every measurable level.

The argument that same-sex attraction is a product of genetic accident is easily refuted; for if such a gene were existent for any period of time, it would soon by its own actions render itself extinct, as do most unnatural mutations. Thus it is clear that the homosexual inclination is a product of external environmental stimulus and internal psychological impediments (intrinsically disordered desire). This distinction is important for reason that the state-enforced tolerance of intrinsically disordered behaviors (perversions) aligns perfectly with the anti-life philosophy that has imposed a literal death grip upon our culture. The rationale supporting this statement is the summation of those disorders, while still generally opposed, continue to advance, continue to realize great reinforcement through subversive indoctrination of the young, and thus continue to undermine true liberty with an emboldened narcissistic flattery that pretends itself tolerance.

Thus the libertarian argument of “non-interference” where willing parties engage in private acts not harmful to a non-interested party is a patently absurd and false doctrine. Such philosophy entails the shackling of human society in a suicide pact that is contrary to the development of a resilient culture, is destructive of a sustainable and prosperous economy, and exists in direct opposition to right reason and the moral imperatives derived through the Natural Law.

Ask the signers of this piece of libertarian trash if they are willing to sell their soul for 30 pieces of silver. If they are inclined to betray the common good, for the sake of "limited government and reduced taxes," then let them do so of their own accord; they do not speak for me, and I doubt they speak for most of the THINKING individuals within the TEA Party movement, whom understand the negative consequences connected with duplicity of mind on ethical and moral issues. I do not make deals with the Devil, and neither should the TEA Party do so in my name.


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1 posted on 11/15/2010 3:06:11 PM PST by TCH
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To: TCH

Just more effort to push the Christians out of the GOP.

If they ever get their wish they’ll find themselves on the shelf of forgotten parties, right next to the Whigs and the Know-Nothings.


2 posted on 11/15/2010 3:09:00 PM PST by marron
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Wow! You’re very articulate. Well put!


3 posted on 11/15/2010 3:09:30 PM PST by MNDude (And we were SO close to acheiving utopia)
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To: TCH

Amen


4 posted on 11/15/2010 3:09:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: TCH

Herding cats.


5 posted on 11/15/2010 3:11:00 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TCH

here here!!!!


6 posted on 11/15/2010 3:12:51 PM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: TCH

“I sure as hell do not approve of the recently released letter demanding that Republicans jettison “social issues!””

Nor do I approve! We take our stand for what is GOOD. Period.


7 posted on 11/15/2010 3:13:48 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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I would just say you are doing exactly what the real enemies, the Democrats are hoping for. They have used the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy to divide the fiscal conservatives from the social conservatives. While the two are certainly not mutually exclusive, the libertarian, fiscally conservative movement is growing in numbers. By applying your social issues ‘litmus test’ to the ‘Tea Party’ you are doing the work of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al.

Social issues should be properly returned to states rights issues, not national issues. The way forward for the social conservatives is to get the Federal gov’t to return power to the states. If people can move to a state that offers them the social and fiscal environment that suits them, social conservatives and libertarian conservatives will both have a place where they feel welcome. To apply your rules, the chances of conservatism ever overtaking the liberalism that now dominates are slim and none.


8 posted on 11/15/2010 3:16:01 PM PST by milwguy
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To: TCH

This is what happens when some group tries to be the head of a dispersed, leaderless movement.

Ignore the idiots and continue to do what you know is right.

The errant (and egotistical) tentacle will either modify its actions or die on the vine and the healthy Tea Party will simply move ahead.

GO TEA PARTY!


9 posted on 11/15/2010 3:16:35 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: TCH
Abortion and homosexuality are not even "social" issues. They are moral and ethical issues that go beyond federalism. It's a clear matter of right vs wrong.

GOProud is a more "conservative" off-shoot of the Log Cabin Republicans, but their agenda is the same. They and some naive Tea Party types are trying to destroy the new coalition. Probably paid off by Soros

10 posted on 11/15/2010 3:17:33 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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I can assure you that it is ONLY due to the neutrality of the Tea Party on social issues that so many independents voted (R)/Tea Party this last election. Break that neutrality, and you break the Tea Party coalition. It's as simple as that. How much you like it is irrelevant.
11 posted on 11/15/2010 3:17:57 PM PST by sourcery (Poor Nancy: From Speaker OF the House to...Speaker UNDER the Housepaper debt instrument, which is no)
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I like what you said, but you are reacting to the MSM trying to split the teaparty movement. You need to look at the source... When Demint or Palin makes a crack like this, I’ll get upset, not before.


12 posted on 11/15/2010 3:18:08 PM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isnÂ’t welcome, IÂ’m not welcome, itÂ’s just that simpleÂ…)
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To: TCH

I agree.

I’m a little bit suspicious as to the origins of said “letter to the GOP” considering there is no actual leadership structure of the Tea Party. Haven’t the liberal media and GOP elites gone after the Tea Party because of a lack of structured organization? If it has no structured organization, then how can it send a party-wide letter to the GOP with demands???


13 posted on 11/15/2010 3:18:15 PM PST by derekr44 (Straight, white, conservative male. How else can I piss you off today?)
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It is not the job of the Federal government to be involved in social issues, that like other intrinsically domestic matters this is a State and local NOT Federal matter.

Social issues in the Federal Government should be focused on getting the Federal Government OUT OF not into the social sphere.


14 posted on 11/15/2010 3:20:27 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: TCH

An excellent post, worthy of a bttt.

Institutional Republicans would love to pull the party away from conservatism and towards libertarianism. But libertarianism is a lie — it is the sense of personal morality among Americans that has kept us free. You cannot have freedom without a strong sense of right and wrong among the citizenry.

Those who would throw moral issues to the wayside are no better than those who would socialized medicine and death panels, IMHO. I don’t care if these people insist on having an “R” by their names — if they intend to pursue this line of policy, they are no better than those who serve in the zer0 regime.


15 posted on 11/15/2010 3:22:55 PM PST by MWS
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I think the essence of your argument is correct. However, you need to remember priorities. Who cares if there are homosexuals in the house if the house is on fire. Put the fire out first. Then deal with the moral issues. I think it may be too late. After the coming collapse, moral order will be restored by necessity. I think your point is correct. It is immorality that led to the fire. But now is not the time to lecture the kids about playing with matches, it’s time to put out the fire.


16 posted on 11/15/2010 3:25:33 PM PST by ChinaThreat (3)
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The Libertarian Party did seminal work on private property rights which helped us in rural America fighting the Clinton fascist bureaucracy and its cryto-Nazi leader Bruce Babbitt, head of the Interior Dept.

In the late 1990s, the Marxists and libertines pretty much took over the party.

I don’t even know if the libertarian party still has defense of private property in its platform. I kind of doubt it, seeing as how it’s become part of the left wing elitist open borders crowd.

Well, I’m way off topic, but we certainly need to be careful of what and who calls themselves members of the Tea Party. The leftists will do everything possible to divide any revolutionary movement that threatens the gains the Marxists have made the past 100 years.

Good article, BTW.


17 posted on 11/15/2010 3:29:15 PM PST by sergeantdave
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And therein lies the problem. The ARE in it. And going deeper and deeper daily. It’s our duty to get them OUT!! Repeal, reverse and abolish ALL of the damage inflicted on our once free society by the godless Marxists, progressives, liberals and RINOS!!


18 posted on 11/15/2010 3:35:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: TCH

As a founding member of the TP, release a letter clarifying the other realeased letter: The Tea Party accovates for the first amendment. The government is not to establish nor fund a social belief structure for the nation.

In respect for the first amendment, the Federal government should not be involved in pushing and funding abortion nor in funding and advocating against abortion. The constitution leaves such moral issues to the people, the communities and States.

The Federal government venturing into establishing religious and social belief structures is unconstitutional and divisive of the American people. The constitution leaves moral and social issues that touch upon spiritual values to the people, communities and States.

This will defund abortion and homosexual activism in the government. Likewise the government can not fund prolife activism nor moral sexual behaviors which it does not do anyway.


19 posted on 11/15/2010 3:35:57 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: marron

Any member of the tea party can release a position on the government funding and promoting abortion and homsexuality.


20 posted on 11/15/2010 3:36:55 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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