Posted on 11/16/2010 3:09:32 PM PST by KateUTWS
As in all things, consider the source....
You sir are no gentleman!
Is everything you said in 2008 gospel?
I think not.
Would you please accept my apology for STARTING this
crappy thread and stop impugning me?
KATE
Would you please accept my apology for STARTING this crappy thread and stop impugning me?
I accept your apology. Does this mean you won't post another Romney pimping thread?
“Romney was not at Bain Capital when they purchased Ampad. He was at Bain Co. and did not return to Bain Capital until December of that year. They were able to keep Ampad running for another 8 years.”
He wasn’t there when they made the purchase. Just when they ran it into the ground. I’m with you.
BTTT
That'a a rather pathetic post hoc argument, don't you think? What other examples of non-rational persuasion can you come up with?
How about answering this instead: If Ampad was really profitable, why did Mead dump them? Would Ampad be in business today if it weren't for Bain Capital? Did Bain Capital act responsibly towards it's shareholders?
There is a distinction between Bain Co. and Bain Capital. I had hoped you would have understood that. But instead I get the typical unionist argument that a business in existence in 1980 and making a profit should just by the nature of being a business be just as profitable in 2010 by making the exact same product but selling it for more money. Bain Capital was not able to save Ampad. Their profit would have been greater if they had. Yet you try to portray them as some kind of liquidator that is out to destroy good jobs for immediate profit. I would have expected to hear that from DU, but not here.
And as for Salt Lake City:
Hoodat,
I don’t find your responses or defense of Mitt
credible or rationale. I find them to be incredible
and rationalizing.
best,
ampu
A combination of logical disconnect and creative writing...
Every individual is flawed - some more than others. In Romney's case, he is hopelessly flawed when it comes to politics. However, even this man has done some remarkable things. I don't see the need to lie about his past in order to break him down even more. Let his political record stand for itself. But painting John McCain as some pro-life saint for the purpose of drawing a contrast with Romney is purely disgusting.
Romney has done remarkable work at Bain and Bain Capital which has affected hundreds of thousands of lives in a positive way. He has effectively been a physician for dying businesses. And that is a far better record than the vast majority of politicians occupying Washington these days.
btw, when polled about possible GOP Presidential candidates for 2012, I always say 'someone else'. Got any ideas?
WASHINGTON _ A spending bill approved by Congress contains $14.8 million for communications equipment, the latest addition to the $1.3 billion the federal government is contributing TAXPAYERS are forced to pay to the 2002 Olympic Games in Salt Lake City.
This is just like the LDS religious Organization® complaining when IT's past is dredged up!
(It COULD say it's learned it was WRONG then, and offer an apology, and say it'll do better in the future.)
Elsie, I am really trying to understand your point in post 151. Are you complaining because you believe that the federal government should not provide any funding for hosting Olympic Games? Or are you trying to criticize Romney for something else.
“I find it incredible that people find the need to criticize him for things that simply are not true.”
I have a different analysis than you. That’s OK.
“I don’t see the need to lie about his past in order to break him down even more.”
Nor do I.
See, we can agree!
HMM...
I'll have to think about how to explain myself better...
Mitt was governor of Massachusetts. There is no worse credential for a Republican.
If he was good enough for Massachusetts, he will be disaster for America.
Just WHO in Washington actually has the POWER to approve a request for a few BILLION dollars of OUR money?
And just WHY would they do what MITT asked them to do?
If you had asked me that question two years ago, I would have told you Congress along with the President's signature. My answer now would be the President along with the Federal Reserve Chairman's signature.
And just WHY would they do what MITT asked them to do?
Because they've done it for every Olympic Committee that has hosted the Games in the US. As the host country, it is in our best interest to present our country in excellence when we know the rest of the world is watching. Our President and Congress have believed over the years that spending some of the taxpayer's money on the games is good diplomacy. Are you blaming Romney for that?
The fact remains that Mitt Romney walked into a horrendous situation when he took over the SLC Games. They were millions in debt with no hope of signing on any sponsors. Under Romney's leadership, they turned that completely around. You can read the account from the Las Vegas paper if you wish. And no, simply throwing taxpayer money at something does not fix it. It takes leadership on the ground. Romney did a great job with what he was dealt. To suggest otherwise is simply dishonest.
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