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McCain adds to chatter about third party threat to GOP [Palin and Thune quoted as well]
The Hill ^ | Nov. 16, 2010 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 11/16/2010 6:01:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance

That California party predates yours by many decades, outside of them has your party grown by any significant number, because the California party had almost that same number when Alan Keyes created your party in 2008, and are you two parties or one now?


41 posted on 11/16/2010 8:12:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: ari-freedom
A third party gave us 2 terms for Bill Clinton.

Yeah, without Perot, we could have another four years of GHW Bush, or four years of Bob Dole. I'm sure that would have been an improvement.

The third party happens because the Republican Party does not offer an alternative worth voting for.

42 posted on 11/16/2010 8:20:37 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Rocky

“Yeah, without Perot, we could have another four years of GHW Bush, or four years of Bob Dole. I’m sure that would have been an improvement.”

so instead we got a weakened security which led to the USS Cole bombing and 9/11


43 posted on 11/16/2010 8:24:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ansel12

As usual, you misrepresent the facts, even though you’ve had those facts explained to you many times. You just keep repeating the Left’s lying spin, because it serves your purpose of personally attacking me.

Alan Keyes did not create our party, nor has he controlled it at any point in time. It was set up by grassroots Reagan conservative activists, practically none of which you or anyone else has ever heard. And they control it to this hour.

And, you have no idea what our total numbers are, because our affiliations are not predicated on party affiliation or registration. Frankly, it’s none of your damned business.

Which doesn’t change the fact that we are the third-largest political party based on voter registrations.


44 posted on 11/16/2010 8:56:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: ari-freedom

Maybe we would have stopped 9/11. Maybe. I’m not as confident as you seem to be on that account. But the Cole? What would Bush or Dole have done to stop that?

At any rate, Bush might still have won a second term if he hadn’t broken his promise not to raise taxes. And he also gave us the ADA. While it did some good, it also cost companies all over the country a lot of money. It was the typical liberal program: Feel good about the wonderful things you are doing, and don’t count the cost. Any improvement is good, no matter how much it costs. Like the Medicare drug program his son pushed through.

We need a new breed of politician. We are seeing them in the Tea Party. The Republican elitists have a choice. Allow the Tea Party to thrive within the Republican Party, or force it to go outside the Republican Party. The country is at a turning point. We will follow California down the drain, or we will drastically change our ways.


45 posted on 11/16/2010 8:58:18 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: ari-freedom

For the record, our party, and our people, never tired or flagged in the defense of the necessity of the war effort. Even the Bush White House acknowledged this.


46 posted on 11/16/2010 8:58:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: Rocky

“Maybe we would have stopped 9/11. Maybe. I’m not as confident as you seem to be on that account. But the Cole? What would Bush or Dole have done to stop that?”

Our enemies are more aggressive when they perceive us as weak. Bush and Dole would not have let the world think that we were just interested in chasing chubby bimbos all day.


47 posted on 11/16/2010 9:04:09 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: EternalVigilance
And, you have no idea what our total numbers are, because our affiliations are not predicated on party affiliation or registration. Frankly, it’s none of your damned business.

Which doesn’t change the fact that we are the third-largest political party based on voter registrations.

I'm sorry, I thought since you were partly selling numbers that you could give some evidence of them, but that seemed to make you mad and you still refuse to, even after 2 years of people asking for some kind of information on this mysterious party that guards it's secrets so carefully, yet makes such flamboyant claims.

Wikipedia still does not list you as one of the largest "third Parties". Does that explain why Keyes barely won any votes as head of your party, or was it because the huge masses of people that registered into his party, refused to vote for him, that seems unlikely.

At least tell us if you are the same exact party as the old American Independent Party in California, Wikipedia says that Alan Keyes did not start your party until late 2008.

"Instead, Keyes formed a new third party, America's Independent Party, for his presidential candidacy. America's Independent Party gained the affiliation of a faction of California's American Independent Party. However, the AIP ticket, which had Brian Rohrbough of Colorado as its vice presidential candidate, was only on the ballot in California, Colorado, and Florida. In the federal election held on November 4, 2008, Keyes received 47,694 votes nationally to finish seventh.[94] About 86% (40,673) of the votes he received were cast in California."

48 posted on 11/16/2010 9:28:24 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: ansel12

Do you believe everything you read on Wikipedia? LOL...

Like I said, troll, all you’re doing is repeating lying liberal spin, for the purpose of personally attacking me. Go bother somebody else.


49 posted on 11/16/2010 9:34:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: Brilliant

The GOP and DNC already merged. We are trying to bring the GOP back to being for a constituional Repulic. I have my doubts. McCain is spinning this as if the only thing Americans are upset about is overspending. Americans are upset about a lot more than that.


50 posted on 11/16/2010 9:34:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ari-freedom

My friend, Bush had one thing to commend him, and that was his pro family stance. In every other instance, he has proven to be an elitist big gov’t, big spending, pro big corporations and anti small business.

But, I will give him his props for being pro life. He deserves that, and it really is the most important issue.

But, we can do much much better.


51 posted on 11/16/2010 9:36:08 PM PST by TeachableMoment
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To: EternalVigilance

You can LOL all you want, but after a couple of years and with you as the Party Chairman, and having Alan Keyes himself named as the creator, you and he are unable to change wiki’s entry on the origins of the party that he created more than two years ago.

Are you saying that Wiki just refuses to correct their articles concerning your political party, and that there is nothing that you can do about it, as “America’s Third Largest Party”?


52 posted on 11/16/2010 9:46:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: Candor7

Everytime I see this face, it makes me want never to set foot in AZ again. And the state has a few nice places, but its politics is pitiful.


53 posted on 11/16/2010 9:48:02 PM PST by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: ansel12

Go away, troll.


54 posted on 11/16/2010 9:54:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: EternalVigilance

It seems odd that the Party Chairman cannot support any of his claims about party size, registered members, whether Alan Keyes created the party or not as Wikipedia has said from the beginning, evidently unchallenged by Keyes or his party.

How could Keyes get so few votes from his own party, when you claim such a large membership?


55 posted on 11/16/2010 10:01:11 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: ansel12

Leave me alone, troll. Go bother somebody who cares what you think.

You’ve harrassed me thread to thread to thread now for what, at least a year? You have yet to say anything helpful or useful to the conservative cause. You just repeat the same lying nonsense over and over and over again. It’s really stale, and boring, and useless. Get a life.


56 posted on 11/16/2010 10:04:50 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Could you answer those questions posed by the one you call “troll” or would I be a troll too if I want those answers?

The questions seem valid.

A direct answer would be appreciated.

Thanks.

57 posted on 11/16/2010 10:12:05 PM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

I’ve answered him all I will ever answer him again.

But, of course, if you have a reasonable question, I’ll be happy to answer you.


58 posted on 11/16/2010 10:17:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Actually I have asked relevant questions to your thread, and to your boastful, and evidently false claims as a party chairman, and your response is to refuse to support your claims, and to lash out personally at me in a defensive manner.

If you can’t support your claims, then quit making them, and really do quit denying that Alan Keyes formed your party, and he did it in the same year that he ran in two primaries and lost in TWO other parties, and then formed his own “third party” vehicle.


59 posted on 11/16/2010 10:17:26 PM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: Syncro

What’s your question?


60 posted on 11/16/2010 10:17:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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