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Body Scanner Controversy Making Bang Within the Corporate Media
Intel Hub ^ | 11-17-10 | Ambellas

Posted on 11/17/2010 8:10:25 AM PST by FS11

Napolitano asks fliers for ‘patience’ on body scanners

The nation’s Homeland Security chief asked for air travelers’ “cooperation” and “patience” with full-body scanning and pat downs this holiday season amid a growing public backlash that the airport tactics are intrusive.

“Each and every one of the security measures we implement serves an important goal,” Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano writes in a column for today’s USA TODAY, which asks the public to be a partner in defending against terrorism.

Will the Dept. of Homeland Security drop the hammer on the unhappy U.S. population and go against the people’s wishes? Will we see some sort of fake terror attack to push these clearly unpopular naked body scanners?


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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BO & Big Sis must be shocked that MSM is now covering the Naked Body Scan Controversy.
1 posted on 11/17/2010 8:10:30 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

Look who owns the company that makes the scanners - a major investor is our last DHS leader (old skull head) and the conglomerate that owns them... Soros.

Always follow the money.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 8:17:43 AM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: edcoil

Could you go into more detail?


3 posted on 11/17/2010 8:19:48 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: FS11
“Each and every one of the security measures we implement serves an important goal,” Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

The "important goal" is to make human livestock completely desensitized to egregious violations of privacy, and more accommodating of each and every government intrusion. Period.

This charade has not one damn thing to do with airline security ... it is about the security of government and insider investors like Chertoff and Soros.

4 posted on 11/17/2010 8:21:12 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: FS11

Big Sis is as much a disgrace as her boss, Big Imam.


5 posted on 11/17/2010 8:22:30 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: FS11
“Will the Dept. of Homeland Security drop the hammer on the unhappy U.S. population and go against the people’s wishes? Will we see some sort of fake terror attack to push these clearly unpopular naked body scanners?”

You know it is coming, a Reichstag Fire type incident to show the heroism and rightness of Nazi policy, to defame critics and enact even harsher measures. The idiots will lap it up. Watch for a suppository bomb sometime soon.

6 posted on 11/17/2010 8:26:32 AM PST by Luke21
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To: FS11

When do saved scans of young teenage girls qualify as child porn?

Also, when do you think someone will take a geiger counter and measure the radiation coming off these machines?


7 posted on 11/17/2010 8:28:51 AM PST by Suz in AZ
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To: spodefly; All
"The "important goal" is to make human livestock completely desensitized to egregious violations of privacy, and more accommodating of each and every government intrusion. Period."

Yes, true, And this started with government imposing the government schools on the American people.

Face it people, the problem, is all these laws. 99% of laws Congress has passed are socialism,unconstitutional AND damage freedom and the economy.

The solution is to have a Constitutional amendment that will

1. Make ALL laws expire after 3 years. The problem is once these socialist laws are passed then they are forever, forever mandating increasing spending, increasing government growth, increasing government control etc.

This way only a few laws (programs) which are what people really want will be kept going.

And this must apply to all laws passed since the constitution was ratified. So all previous laws passed will be given 3 years to expire.

2. Documentation on each law about to be voted on must be mailed out to each American.

8 posted on 11/17/2010 8:29:48 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: FS11
I like birds. I have a property that has lots of them. So many that the previous owner had the property registered as a bird sanctuary by the state. Must have been some kind of weird liberal I guess to do that.

I like feeding the birds and put bird seed out at times. I noticed that some of the seed gets eaten fast and also ends up on the ground. I started paying closer attention and found out that it was the squirrels eating the bird seed. Over and over the squirrels kept stealing the seed. I have rats, armadillos, skunks, snakes, rabbits and various other critters on the property. Only the squirrels steal the bird seed. Every time it is a squirrel.

By the governments way of thinking I need to harass all the critters on the property along with the squirrels so I can stop the bird seed theft. That makes no common sense.

All this so-called security BS in the airports is silly. So far the only people blowing up things and killing people are moslems. Not nuns, children, grandma or some software engineer who does not want "his junk" touched. It is moslems. Period. We should either profile the non-moslems or profile the moslems. Or both. We need to sensibly address the problem and then try to fix it. What we are doing now is absurd. You cannot fix the "squirrel" problem unless you focus on the squirrels.

9 posted on 11/17/2010 8:32:06 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: spodefly
The "important goal" is to make human livestock completely desensitized to egregious violations of privacy, and more accommodating of each and every government intrusion. Period.


10 posted on 11/17/2010 8:36:27 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: Nevadan

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2628551/posts


11 posted on 11/17/2010 8:41:58 AM PST by miele man
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To: FS11

Don’t worry: The radiation exposure cancer you get will be covered by ObamaCare.

Not.


12 posted on 11/17/2010 8:42:25 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: Nevadan

Bill Carroll on KFI640 said it on his show yesterday.

http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/BillCarroll.html


13 posted on 11/17/2010 8:42:58 AM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: Nevadan

Bill Carroll on KFI640 said it on his show yesterday.

http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/BillCarroll.html

He noted the company is in North Carolina and was a big political supported for the elected folks from there.


14 posted on 11/17/2010 8:43:47 AM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: Luke21; isthisnickcool; ExTexasRedhead

You know it is coming, a Reichstag Fire type incident to show the heroism and rightness of Nazi policy, to defame critics and enact even harsher measures. The idiots will lap it up. Watch for a suppository bomb sometime soon.


I suspect that there will be dry runs by BO’s Terrorist Pals during Thanksgiving. Then, BO’s Terrorist Pals will launch there attacks during the Christmas Holidays. While everyone is distracted by Full Body Scans and Pat Downs of innocent travelers, BO’s Terrorist Pals exempted from Pat Downs because of muslim clothing will be waved right abroad planes with their hidden explosives. BO and Big Sis will probably blame the explosions on toner cartridges from Yemen.


15 posted on 11/17/2010 8:45:16 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11
The nation’s Homeland Security chief asked for air travelers’ “cooperation

16 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:07 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Suz in AZ

Posted on Citizen Wells

Kim | November 17, 2010 at 11:26 am | Did you know that the nation’s airports are not required to have Transportation Security Administration screeners checking passengers at security checkpoints? The 2001 law creating the TSA gave airports the right to opt out of the TSA program in favor of private screeners after a two-year period. Now, with the TSA engulfed in controversy and hated by millions of weary and sometimes humiliated travelers, Rep. John Mica, the Republican who will soon be chairman of the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, is reminding airports that they have a choice.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html#ixzz15YdW2HrW


17 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:45 AM PST by FS11
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To: spodefly

My read on this is - conditioning the populace to COMPLY with orders from government agents, regardless of constitutional rights. Testing the waters.


18 posted on 11/17/2010 8:56:28 AM PST by GunsAndBibles
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To: FS11
“Each and every one of the security measures we implement serves an important goal,”

It's not the goal that most people assume. There are cheaper, less intrusive, and more effective ways to keep Muslim terrorists from killing people. The government actually interferes with effective measures, such as arming pilots.

The real goal is to get the American population to accept much greater government control over their movements. These kinds of intrusive security measures are also being added to trains and cruise ships. There is a group in Oregon that has been pushing for installing GPS tracking systems in all cars.

19 posted on 11/17/2010 8:58:05 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Don’t worry: The radiation exposure cancer you get will be covered by ObamaCare.

The socialists have figured out how to prevent the collapse of social security: irradiate business fliers frequently so they die young. Business fliers mostly vote Republican anyway. The TSA monster has a vast store of blackmail material and coercion techniques to insure ever increasing funding.

20 posted on 11/17/2010 8:58:26 AM PST by Reeses
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To: FormerACLUmember

If you’re over 50 and get cancer,
it will be determined “not cost effective”
to treat you.


21 posted on 11/17/2010 8:58:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: FS11
My daughter is flying home from FLA today. I am curious what she has to say about her ‘exerience’. Hopefully she doesn't get the treatment.

As for me, I'm not flying till they get this solved. If I set aside the principle of privacy for just a moment, I don't particularly care if have to walk through a scanner so some highly trained TSA can get his/her freak on. But when they start touching me... no. Unless 1) I can pick the TSA agent who is going to be doing it, 2) she is hot and 3) all groping is equally recripicated, then forget it. Of course my wife would have to drive.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 9:01:22 AM PST by mad puppy (Steve McIntyre, we owe you frothy cold one. Thanks.)
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To: GunsAndBibles
My read on this is - conditioning the populace to COMPLY with orders from government agents, regardless of constitutional rights.

Americans are being turned into Abu Ghraib prisoners.


23 posted on 11/17/2010 9:06:00 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Reeses
Americans are being turned into Abu Ghraib prisoners.

Wow, that is such a great point!

24 posted on 11/17/2010 9:10:10 AM PST by Shethink13
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To: Reeses

http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20101116-31209.html

The units, which have been in use since September, are apparently unable to tell the difference between foreign objects and such things like pleated clothing.

The scanners use millimetre-wave technology to produce outline images of bodies, with each scan lasting less than three seconds.

While some passengers are being asked to remove thicker clothes such as jumpers, NDR reported that the devices are regularly malfunctioning due to creases in lighter clothes such as blouses and skirts.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 9:10:10 AM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

The press was hoping to catch everyone gobsmacked this Thanksgiving (too far along to be able to do anything but comply).


26 posted on 11/17/2010 9:17:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: FS11

Virtual strip search.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 9:21:01 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

TSA goons accost young woman, cuff her and tear up her plane ticket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZLQHWOvPE&feature=related


28 posted on 11/17/2010 9:22:30 AM PST by FS11
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To: edcoil

‘Former Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has been criticized for heavily promoting full-body scanners while not always fully disclosing that he is a lobbyist for one of the companies that makes the machines’


29 posted on 11/17/2010 9:22:53 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: edcoil

Other full-body scanner lobbyists with Government connections include:[86]

former TSA deputy administration Tom Blank
former assistant administrator for policy at the TSA, Chad Wolf
Kevin Patrick Kelly, “a former top staffer to Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., who sits on the Homeland Security Appropriations subcommittee”
Former Senator Al D’Amato

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_body_scanner


30 posted on 11/17/2010 9:23:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: FS11

Rafi Sela, an Israeli airport security expert who helped design security at Ben Gurion International Airport, has said:[82] “I don’t know why everybody is running to buy these expensive and useless machines. I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747...That’s why we haven’t put them in our airport”


31 posted on 11/17/2010 9:24:21 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: FS11

Alex Jones had been harping on this whole TSA business for the last year. While he is pretty crazy he is right about this.


32 posted on 11/17/2010 9:27:32 AM PST by GraceG
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To: isthisnickcool
You cannot fix the "squirrel" problem unless you focus on the squirrels.

One of those in finding the responsible "squirrels" was a former head of the "squirrel finding" agency who has an investment/profit motive for using equipment that considers EVERY airline user a potential bird seed thief (even though the equipment isn't totally effective). Currently there are "squirrels" within the agency that is supposed to identify the "squirrels." that have actually, to date, been responsible for all birdseed theft. As you asked, how effective ultimately is this going to be?

More than likely terrorists will be revved up to be the first to bring down a plane that is chock full of body-scanned travelers who were under the Napolitano/Obama/Chertoff illusion of traveling safely. The lawsuits will REALLY fly then.

33 posted on 11/17/2010 9:27:32 AM PST by MamaDearest
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To: FS11

I don’t want nobody making bang to mah nekked pictures.


34 posted on 11/17/2010 9:28:40 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: FS11

No, they will blame it on “the rectal bomber” so they can get their hands even further up our butts. They aren’t satisfied with just being in our pockets anymore.


35 posted on 11/17/2010 9:30:49 AM PST by Merlinator (Don't retreat....just reload.)
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To: FS11

So, if some terrorist at least tries a bomb up the anus trick what will be the TSA ‘procedure’ to attempt to stop that from happening again?

I say - profiling is the only thing that actually works.


36 posted on 11/17/2010 9:31:07 AM PST by unique
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To: Nevadan

I Googled “Soros” this morning. There are stories.

I want to be convinced though rather than jumping the gun vlaming him. He is simply the majority owner in a company making most of the scanners.


37 posted on 11/17/2010 9:35:07 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Reeses

She is a little tramp!


38 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:04 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: a fool in paradise

National TSA Opt Out Day 11-24-10. Get to Airport early. Lines will be very long.

National TSA Opt Out Day November 24, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7VEuyJ2uY&feature=related


39 posted on 11/17/2010 9:56:45 AM PST by FS11
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To: MamaDearest
One thing that has had a blind eye turned away from it is the MANPAD problem. Which is THE problem when it comes to airliner safety. The moslems have been sneaking (just walking right in actually) MANPADS in to the US from Mexico for years. In 2002 I personally saw DHS giving seminars to local law enforcement where they were showing them how to identify the various MANPAD components. So this problem has been going on for a long time. I recall that even Colin Powell at one point said something like "the greatest threat to aviation is missiles" some years back.

Using a MANPAD is pretty simple. Point it at an airliner's engine to lock on the heat source, wait for tone and fire. Since the device is usually 6 ft. long or so they can be stashed in most cars or trucks. By the time the projectile hits the aircraft the shooter will be long gone. Since the kill zone is a 40 mile circle around any airport it is impossible to stop a MANPAD launch. There was talk about equipping airliners with countermeasures but the expense is huge. Plus, there are MANPADS that can be sight controlled to the target so countermeasures won;t work with a trained shooter.

The devices are here already, the terror cells are sitting and waiting to be activated. The feds are well aware of this. I cannot imagine what kind of stuff has been going on in the background because of this. I suspect one reason we are such wimps in dealing with moslems is that they are using this for leverage. Expect the Saudis to build more and more mosques and continue their expansion of their so-called religion in America. They can do this because besides having this MANPAD terror threat they can turn on one day and we will see commercial airliners falling out of the sky all over the US they also have a brother in the White House.

We need someone like Teddy Roosevelt in the White House. Someone that would make it clear that in the event of another 911 mecca and medina are gone. Barbaric force is all these folks understand.

Happy flying:)

40 posted on 11/17/2010 10:01:02 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Luke21
Watch for a suppository bomb sometime soon.

According to the "logic" of the NAZI TSA/DHS, Napolitano, and Obama, a "suppository bomb" will me that all air travelers will be subjected to cavity searches, i.e.,:

9/11 hijackers = No sharp objects on planes.

(Attempted) Shoe bomber = shoes inspected before flights.

(Threat of) Liquid explosives = No liquids on flights.

(Attempted) Underwear bomber = Virtual strip search/groin groped before flights.

(Threat of) PETN/C4 in body cavities = Full body cavity search of all air travelers.

Enough of this crap! This government is out of control, and needs to be put in its place NOW.

41 posted on 11/17/2010 10:12:58 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: edcoil

Follow the money which exposes Elitist corruption and treason against the American people, in my opinion.


42 posted on 11/17/2010 10:15:40 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: FS11

I think everyone should do something subversive but legal when going through such a body scan.

For example, use a couple of additional latex appendages in your pants. Yeah, you’ll get pulled out of line, but we’ve been told over and over again that a person’s sexual life is his own business. And if I want to fly with a few extra appendages in my pants, who is the TSA to say that I can’t?


43 posted on 11/17/2010 10:28:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bama thought he'd find "common ground" on 0bamaCare because of ROMNEYCARE!)
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To: FS11

Throughout history, male teens have sought to convince their female counterparts for “cooperation” and “patience” as they sought to grope their breasts and genital areas. Sounds like TSA has decided to elevate this to a “policy.”


44 posted on 11/17/2010 10:56:08 AM PST by DrC
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To: FS11; All

Looks like Soros sold off all his shares recently.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/coincidence-soros-apprently-sells-off-all-shares-of-tsa-scanner-company/


45 posted on 11/17/2010 10:57:11 AM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: edcoil

He made his money and got out because he knew it would cause $#@! storm with the American people once the majority of airports had them installed and insisted passengers use them. The man isn’t stupid.


46 posted on 11/17/2010 11:07:05 AM PST by pops88
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To: FS11

There is a TSA blog, but no one has left any comments. Should we change that? http://blog.tsa.gov/


47 posted on 11/17/2010 11:54:13 AM PST by tkas (Conservative mom)
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To: spodefly
The "important goal" is to make human livestock completely desensitized to egregious violations of privacy, and more accommodating of each and every government intrusion. Period.

Perfectly stated.

The road we are on leads to people being herded into cattle cars, deposited at a concentration camp where they are stripped of all clothing and human dignity, and eventually exterminated.

We've seen all of this before.

48 posted on 11/17/2010 12:57:08 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: ponygirl

Thank you. We are becoming desensitized to what happens to us and our fellows in this blasted police state.


49 posted on 11/17/2010 5:57:04 PM PST by Luke21
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To: tkas

You want them to get you out of bed in the middle of the night? We are lucky they still let us chat here. And that’s because they know we have no power.


50 posted on 11/17/2010 5:58:44 PM PST by Luke21
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