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Say 'I Opt Out' of Airport Scanners on National Opt Out Day, November 24
Airport Business News ^ | 11-15-10 | AirportBusiness.com

Posted on 11/18/2010 8:44:23 AM PST by FS11

"Not only are these porno scanners a gross violation of individual privacy," said boycott co-founder George Donnelly, "they're also a threat to the health of millions of passengers and ineffective as well. The goal of the demonstrations is to urge Americans to exercise their legal right to 'opt out' of the scan."

If you have to fly on November 24, We Won't Fly urges you to opt out of the new scanners for your own health and privacy. Say "I opt out!" Be prepared for delays and intimate TSA "patdowns." If you're not flying on November 24, We Won't Fly urges you to tell your friends, family and community members who are flying. Organizers of local meetups can list their events on our nationwide map at http://WeWontFly.com/opt-out-day.

As University of California scientists noted earlier this year, the airport scanners may pose a serious health risk. "Our overriding concern is the extent to which the safety of this scanning device has been adequately demonstrated. This can only be determined by a meeting of an impartial panel of experts that would include medical physicists and radiation biologists at which all of the available relevant data is reviewed," they said in a letter of concern.

(Excerpt) Read more at airportbusiness.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; national; november24; nudeoscopes; optoutday; tsa; tsapervs; tsascanners
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To: UCANSEE2

If I understand correctly, this site was not founded to provide a debating society; it was founded to promote conservative candidates and issues.


141 posted on 11/18/2010 12:09:49 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Ever heard of “sarcasm”?


142 posted on 11/18/2010 12:11:33 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SZonian

You are correct. I do not get a “pat down” everyday.

I just think this is the wrong way to attack this issue.

Clogging up airports, and raising the sexual misconduct innuendo is not the way to get rid of the TSA pat downs.

I think they need to look for terrorists and not common everyday folk trying to get from point a to point b to get through their ordinary lives.

I’m sure the TSA workers would prefer not to have to have physical contact with me, my husband (if I had one, but I am widowed) or my children in the interest of “flying safety”. I am guessing they are doing it in the interest of job description.

I do not have a wife....


143 posted on 11/18/2010 12:12:22 PM PST by Neets
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To: FS11

I’m waiting for the government sex workers that Michelle Obama visited with in India to be ‘imported’ to the U.S.

Maybe we could employ them for the patdowns and body cavity searches.

I bet they could discern a possible terrorist better than the current agents.


144 posted on 11/18/2010 12:15:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

It was SARCASM UCANSEE2

How can anyone defend ignoring the 4th ammendment?

Where is the probable cause in searching this mother? Where is the probable cause in searching a toddler?

If I recall what Chuzzlewit said was something like we need to get over it.

Well I am not going to get over it.

And I am not going to allow my children and wife to be gaped at or groped by the federal government.

I don’t personally blame those working on the front lines for the TSA but it goes much higher than that.

The fourth ammendment it might do you good to read it as well.


145 posted on 11/18/2010 12:15:11 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: SZonian

To: Neets
Unless you’re getting a personal “pat down” by the security folks at WP everyday you go to work, there is no comparison.

And having been in the military for 20 years and currently working on a military facility, I am practically 100% positive you don’t. Unless you give the security forces some probable cause. Which in the case of TSA, there is no probable cause.

Having an ID card checked to verify you have a need or a purpose to access a certain facility at your work location is a lot different than having a stranger grope you, your wife or your children in the interest of “flying safety”.

135 posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:05:25 PM by SZonian


Well Stated.


146 posted on 11/18/2010 12:16:07 PM PST by FS11
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To: SeeSac
And that the TSA has become a bloated federal bureaucracy.

As the current WH administration would say, "That was unexpected." /s

147 posted on 11/18/2010 12:17:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Rightly Biased

To: UCANSEE2
It was SARCASM UCANSEE2

How can anyone defend ignoring the 4th ammendment?

Where is the probable cause in searching this mother? Where is the probable cause in searching a toddler?

If I recall what Chuzzlewit said was something like we need to get over it.

Well I am not going to get over it.

And I am not going to allow my children and wife to be gaped at or groped by the federal government.

I don’t personally blame those working on the front lines for the TSA but it goes much higher than that.

The fourth ammendment it might do you good to read it as well.

145 posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:15:11 PM by Rightly Biased


I agree


148 posted on 11/18/2010 12:19:35 PM PST by FS11
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To: UCANSEE2; Chuzzlewit

“oh the absolute horror !!!

they might touch my privy parts?

how about you people getting some perspective.”

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It seems to me that Chuzzlewit didn’t say a thing about not searching terrorists. It seems to me that Chuzzlewit thinks we need to get some perspective about the TSA touching women and men in a very wrong way without consent or cause

Your shilling for Chuzzlewit is futile at best.

Let Chuzzlewit defend his or herself.

From what was posted not what they “meant to say”


149 posted on 11/18/2010 12:23:56 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: UCANSEE2; Chuzzlewit

This is what he actually said:

To: FS11
oh the absolute horror !!!

they might touch my privy parts?

how about you people getting some perspective.

this is mass hysteria. I’m sick and tired of it.. Drudge is a strange dude, seems to have a hang up in this area.. This whole thing was “drudged” up by him.

6 posted on November 18, 2010 11:55:51 AM EST by Chuzzlewit

Don’t blame others if they reacted to the above. Should we have read his mind? Perhaps you were able to, so why didn’t you read ours as well?


150 posted on 11/18/2010 12:25:13 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: All

start calling congress


151 posted on 11/18/2010 12:26:29 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: UCANSEE2

What posters are those, who you claim “think they own FR”?


152 posted on 11/18/2010 12:26:30 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: UCANSEE2
As the current WH administration would say, "That was unexpected." /s

They would say that, turn their backs to us and smile.

153 posted on 11/18/2010 12:28:25 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Neets; Chuzzlewit
Some people just don’t get it and belaboring the point with them is......well......pointless.

Much like this.


154 posted on 11/18/2010 12:29:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yeah. I guess I don’t understand your “this is not the place for debate” point, then.


155 posted on 11/18/2010 12:31:32 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: trisham
If I understand correctly, this site was not founded to provide a debating society; it was founded to promote conservative candidates and issues.

So, isn't this discussion of the problems related to TSA a conservative issue?

156 posted on 11/18/2010 12:34:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Neets

My condolences on the passing of your husband, and my apologies about assuming you were male.

I’m not looking at it from a sexual misconduct pov. I’m looking at it from a probable cause pov.

Searching otherwise innocent travelers because an assumption is being made that ALL are potentially guilty is the wrong approach.

My neighbor works for the prison system here and he’s told me many a wild tale about cavity searches for contraband and the kind of stuff they find. I’ll leave it up to your imagination as to what kind of contraband, but don’t limit yourself. He said they use a profiling system to snag the vast majority of it and the smugglers. Now why can’t the TSA?

IMO, the terrorists are winning. We’re tolerating more and more offenses by the gov’t against our personal freedoms.

Alot of the logjams could be prevented a variety of ways. One of the ideas floated around is different levels of screening based on profiling, security clearances, military service, country of origin, etc.

Btw, I never check-in curbside nor do I loiter around large masses of people (unless I’m stuck in a TSA screening line). Target rich environment.


157 posted on 11/18/2010 12:35:09 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: doberville

Your remarks are a PERSONAL ATTACK.

Knock it off.


158 posted on 11/18/2010 12:36:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: mnehring; Chuzzlewit
I’m sure you’ll think differently when standing in line at an airport behind your daughters watching the creepy TSA agent give them a good ‘love pat’.

Would you object to the creepy TSA agent giving some 22 year old middle eastern male who has shaved his entire body, and is sweating profusely, a good 'love pat'?

The problem is not the method of search, it is WHO they are searching. And it ain't the terrorists.

159 posted on 11/18/2010 12:40:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Try rereading your post-the one to which I responded.


160 posted on 11/18/2010 12:40:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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