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Podesta: Obama Can Use ‘Armed Forces’ to Push Progressive Agenda (WTF?!?)
The Blaze ^ | 11/18/10 | Jonathon Seidl

Posted on 11/18/2010 10:10:08 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

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To: Texas4ever

Thanks... pingy for after work...


241 posted on 11/18/2010 3:18:49 PM PST by elpinta (TSA: Feds gone wild)
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To: Jacquerie

>>Don’t worry. Lakin will be found guilty, for guilty he is.<<

Right there ladies and gentlemen is the attitude that will threaten the masses of “we the people” when push comes to shove. The military will follow orders and we are sol if we are not well armed.


242 posted on 11/18/2010 3:20:39 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Lazamataz
Hahaha... would someone please tell us how to recognize the Go-Sign already?!
243 posted on 11/18/2010 3:21:37 PM PST by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Williams
We are so stupid falling for non issues. Why should anyone in the military be talking about what they do with a homosexual sex partner? Why should that issue matter to our military?

Talked to a soldier, airman or Marine lately? The Commandant of the Marine Corps has said openly gay troops affects combat operations, and has data to back it up. Do you want our guys to lose?

244 posted on 11/18/2010 3:32:32 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Once again, I was OPPOSING openly gay service in the military. We should not be concerning ourselves with “gay rights” within the military. I said in my first sentence this will result in cliques of gay activists in the ranks. These people will drive out heteros and cause all kinds of harrassment and discrimination.


245 posted on 11/18/2010 3:35:45 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: LizardQueen
With all the communists now coming out and proud I'm beginning to wonder.
After all, they say a communist is a socialist with a gun.
246 posted on 11/18/2010 3:40:34 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Las Vegas Ron

That is nice! Thanks for the tip.


247 posted on 11/18/2010 3:42:11 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: CynicalBear

If Hussein is not President, is not every law, exec order, etc that he signed also illegal?


248 posted on 11/18/2010 3:44:05 PM PST by Jacquerie (The law is reason unaffected by desire.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

You might take a look at post #137 as well.


249 posted on 11/18/2010 3:44:05 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: My Favorite Headache

You say you want a rev oh loo shun yeah yeah

We’d all love to see the plan

These people are nuts. Crazy. They’re the ones who need to be behind bars . . . and I don’t mean taverns.


250 posted on 11/18/2010 3:54:10 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: CynicalBear

Ladies and gentlemen, should an officer of the Armed Forces refuse to follow or implement any order or policy of the Congress or Courts that he considers to be unconstitutional?


251 posted on 11/18/2010 3:54:16 PM PST by Jacquerie (Tyrants should fear for their personal safety.)
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To: Paine in the Neck; Travis McGee
Get these books, folks, and start reading. It will scare you to death.

Yes, and they are thrilling reads with great character development. I have read them all twice.

I hope his new novel, Castigo Cay, comes out soon.

252 posted on 11/18/2010 3:57:53 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("The Constitution is not an instrument for government to restrain the people..." -- Patrick Henry)
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To: Jacquerie

>>If Hussein is not President, is not every law, exec order, etc that he signed also illegal?<<

They would not be legal if it was proven that he was ineligible to be president. Don’t even think that that is going to come out. Even Republicans won’t go there. It would be chaos in this country. That will be protected till forever if the general public doesn’t force something.

I think he will be forced out for something else to protect from any illegitimacy issues coming out..


253 posted on 11/18/2010 3:58:15 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Darksheare

Research the Roman emperor Caracalla..he was not a natural born citizen..his mother was Syrian. His emperor father married her after his Roman wife died.

He murdered his brother, slaughtered 20,000 political opponents, gave citizenship to every one in the Empire to increase tax revenue to support his massive public spending.

Gibbons tells us this was the beginning of the end of the Roman Empire.

Vattel tells us in his Law of Nations:

Natural born citizens are those born from citizen parents. A society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise. A society should desire this.


254 posted on 11/18/2010 4:00:07 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Jacquerie

>>Ladies and gentlemen, should an officer of the Armed Forces refuse to follow or implement any order or policy of the Congress or Courts that he considers to be unconstitutional?<<

Yes. Read the oath of office they take.


255 posted on 11/18/2010 4:01:03 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: My Favorite Headache

sounds like dictatorship


256 posted on 11/18/2010 4:18:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Grunthor

It didn’t prevent Macarthur/Patton from this (I hate wikipedia but it was quicker for me to grab from there than get my reference books out):

In July 1932, Patton served under Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur as a major commanding 600 troops, including the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment. On July 28, MacArthur ordered these troops to advance on protesting veterans known as the “Bonus Army” in Washington, D.C. with tear gas and bayonets.

A good soldier follows orders, a good officer knows a lawful from unlawful order. Unfortunately as a prior officer myself, I saw many who cared more for their “career” and political expediency than for their duty, stewardship, and honor.


257 posted on 11/18/2010 4:26:24 PM PST by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: maddogmarine

Nice way to enter FR, by calling some of us naive.

My dh just retired from the Marines, and every single Officer we know holds allegiance first and foremost to the founding Constitution. Wait...I think there was one who voted for the prØmpter, and he came around rather quickly to see the error in his choice.


258 posted on 11/18/2010 4:29:03 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: CynicalBear

It is probable that Scotus will soon usurp Article I Sections 1 & 8, and make law. It will illegally take on the Congressional power to “make rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces;” and order the military to keep, enlist and commission open homosexuals.

Should the Supreme Court do this, should an officer comply with this unconstitutional diktat any more than comply with an order to deploy to Iraq?


259 posted on 11/18/2010 4:30:55 PM PST by Jacquerie (Cut the nuts off the Administrative State.)
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To: Jacquerie

Yep.

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely; and without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter; So help me God.


260 posted on 11/18/2010 4:31:20 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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