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Pilot missing after F-22 crash identified
Associated Press Via Yahoo ^ | 11/18/2010 | Associated Press Via Yahoo

Posted on 11/18/2010 8:42:04 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The Air Force has identified the pilot missing after the Alaska crash of an F-22 Raptor jet as Capt. Jeffrey Haney.

Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson spokeswoman Corinna Jones said Thursday that Haney is from Jackson, Mich. He's assigned to the 525th Fighter Squadron.

His single-seat F-22 took off Tuesday from the Anchorage base for a nighttime training run. The aircraft and a second F-22 were nearing completion of their mission when one jet disappeared from ground radar tracking Tuesday evening. Searchers found the crash site Wednesday about 100 miles north of Anchorage.

Rescue teams continue to search the area, looking for any sign of a parachute or fire started by the pilot.

The Air Force has not established whether the ejection seat was deployed

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: aerospace; alaska; elmendorfafb; f22; jeffreyhaney; usaf
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1 posted on 11/18/2010 8:42:07 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Rest in peace, Captain Haney. Godspeed.


2 posted on 11/18/2010 8:43:52 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Prayers for Capt. Haney and his family.


3 posted on 11/18/2010 8:50:32 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Constitution Day

Article is confusing. I don’t think they have a body identified. He has either been identified by name, or he is missing and the wreckage has been identified.


4 posted on 11/18/2010 8:52:08 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Constitution Day

They found the crash, but no body? Odd. Looking forward to conclusion of this.


5 posted on 11/18/2010 8:52:26 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Blogger

I read it to mean they’re releasing the identity of the pilot, not his status.

I think what they’re saying is that they’ve not been able to investigate the wreckage thoroughly enough to determine if he got out or not.

The optimist in me wants to say he got out. But if he got into an A-loc (altered level of consciousness) due to G forces, it’s not probable.


6 posted on 11/18/2010 8:58:06 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
A new master assassin?


7 posted on 11/18/2010 9:03:20 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: SZonian

I thought these aircraft would intervene for terrain avoidance if the pilot was incapacitated? though if low on fuel as well not much can be done.


8 posted on 11/18/2010 9:09:57 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

“one jet disappeared from ground radar tracking” ???

Isn’t the F-22 supposed to be super stealthy?


9 posted on 11/18/2010 9:52:42 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

I’ve read that he was found with minor injuries and released.


10 posted on 11/18/2010 10:08:12 PM PST by freeagle
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To: freeagle

My apologies. I’m not finding the article now.


11 posted on 11/18/2010 10:11:24 PM PST by freeagle
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To: Old Flat Toad
“one jet disappeared from ground radar tracking” ???
Isn’t the F-22 supposed to be super stealthy?

His transponder would be on as this is not combat. The transponder sends out a radar pulse when interrogated by ATC. Thus they know where you are, who you are and how high you are.

12 posted on 11/18/2010 10:37:55 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Old Flat Toad
“one jet disappeared from ground radar tracking” ???
Isn’t the F-22 supposed to be super stealthy?

His transponder would be on as this is not combat. The transponder sends out a radar pulse when interrogated by ATC. Thus they know where you are, who you are and how high you are.

13 posted on 11/18/2010 10:38:43 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Old Flat Toad

>>>>>>>“one jet disappeared from ground radar tracking” ???

Isn’t the F-22 supposed to be super stealthy?>>>>>>>>

Of cource not. It is just less visible. Camouflaged uniform is a good analogue.

Preyers for a pilot and family.


14 posted on 11/18/2010 10:45:04 PM PST by cunning_fish
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15 posted on 11/18/2010 11:34:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Old Flat Toad

When it wants to be......altitude encoding transponders etc are usually on in training and non combat sorties....


16 posted on 11/19/2010 1:41:49 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Don’t know for sure, but A-loc is being attributed to the EAFB F22 crash last March that killed the test pilot.

Since that was a test ship, it may not have had the system you’re talking about.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for Capt. Hanley.


17 posted on 11/19/2010 6:59:22 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Blogger

Thanks for clearing that up. This is odd!


18 posted on 11/19/2010 7:17:32 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
UPDATE (a little too much back patting at this stage IMO)

11/19/2010 - JOINT BASE ELMENDORF-RICHARDSON, Alaska -- Operations efforts continue Thursday, find the missing F-22 Raptor pilot, Air Force Capt. Jeffrey Haney, assigned to the 525th Fighter Squadron.

The Alaska Air National Guard Rescue Coordination Center, the 3rd Wing and Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson search and rescue teams continue to search the area, approximately 100 miles north of Anchorage, for the Air Force F-22 pilot.

"What we're looking for now is the pilot," said Air Force Lt. Col. Scott Jackson, Emergency Operations Center director. "We want to know, ... is the ejector seat in the crash or is he is out in the area somewhere. Once we determine that, then we'll begin securing the aircraft crash site and ensuring its safe."

There are many challenges that come with an operation on a scale and in a location like this, Colonel Jackson said.

"Obviously Alaska's size, terrain and weather conditions make an operation like this difficult, logistically," said Air Force Col. Jack McMullen, 3rd Wing commander. "The training area where the F-22 crashed is larger than the state of Vermont. It's remote, with no maintained roads in the winter and the terrain is very rugged. All these factors complicate the process even in good weather. When you factor in sub-zero temperatures and the potential for heavy snowfall, you see this is truly a massive undertaking."

Colonel Jackson said, because of hazardous material with the aircraft such as fuel, flares, and other dangerous items, there is a lot of work that goes into ensuring the safety of the site.

Operations involving the recovery are being coordinated through the EOC at JBER and the on scene commander.

"It's hard to put what we're doing into words," Colonel Jackson said. "What we're doing is like building al small city of support to supply the site. We're setting up an airport and hotel in the middle of nowhere essentially."

Colonel Jackson said, without communications nothing can be accomplished.

"Coordination between staff agencies, military services, state agencies and our higher headquarters is crucial," Colonel McMullen said. "We have to identify and prioritize the correct personnel, equipment and supplies for each step of the mission, and then get them where they need to be - when they need to be there. We can't do this alone; it requires coordination with the entire joint base community and the Alaska state authorities."

Inside the EOC at JBER, a representative of each specific agency is continuously sending and receiving information from their respected agency to continue the mission. "Our biggest concern is fuel right now," said Tech. Sgt. Mack Estes, EOC transportation representative and 773rd Logistics Readiness Squadron member. "We're trying to get fuel to the main site to heat units and make sure that around 135 people stay alive."

Sergeant Estes said a convoy left today to deliver approximately the same amount of supplies four C-17 Globemaster loads would be able to carry to the supply site.

"Communication and coordination is critical, vital, and you have to be proactive with your support," Sergeant Estes said. "I've had to contact three people to get status updates in the past 30 minutes."

"The 3rd Wing and the 673d Air Base Wing have been tied at the hip from the beginning. Col. Evans (JBER commander) and my airmen are totally integrated in this effort," said Colonel McMullen. "The Alaska Air Guard's 176th Wing's 210th, 211th, 212th Rescue Squadrons along with ANG Rescue Coordination Center Airmen were instrumental in finding the crash site and getting our first Airmen there on the ground. U.S. Army Alaska is providing equipment and rotary wing lift to help establish our footprint at the site. Local police are helping and Alaska Department of Transportation personnel and equipment are plowing roads to help with access."

"I've seen magnificent teamwork; incredibly impressive," said Air Force Col. Rob Evans , JBER commander and the 673d Air Base Wing commander. "This is not just the Army supporting the Air Force; it is a totally joint operation.

"The multiple agencies and organizations involved have stepped up and are coming in to offer support as fast as we identify a need," he said. "The Alaska State Troopers have been keeping us updated with road and weather conditions and such. The Department of Transportation cleared nearly 75 miles of roadway for us. The Alaska National Guard has been involved from the beginning with their search and rescue assets, and they continue to provide invaluable support.

"U.S. Army Alaska is providing invaluable support in the form of equipment, personnel, transportation assets and expertise in dealing with continuing operations in an arctic environment," Colonel Evans said. Personnel from across JBER have been working tirelessly as well, making sure we have what we need, where we need it and when it's needed.

"It is truly inspirational to see so many moving parts working together for a common goal," the colonel said. "The logistics are astounding, but nobody has balked at any request for support. The integrated effort is a textbook example of a joint operation."

More information will be released as it becomes available.

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In my 22+ years in the USAF I have worked crash recovery (F-4, RF-4, F-15s and 'others') in AK and NV - this post seems just a tad too ..... self-congradulatory for my taste.

I suspect when they get into the wreak, they'll find the ACES II + remains. The debris in an a hole - next to a stream - and full of running water - I would hate to be the crew that has to recover this one - esp in 0 or colder weather. So far the WX has been clear and cold. By Monday or sooner it will be raining - again.

If you have a moment, think of/pray for these guys/gals - it's a sad and sorry job, in a cold and nasty work environment.

19 posted on 11/19/2010 9:34:03 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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"I suspect when they get into the wreck, they'll find the ACES II + remains."

My thoughts as well. The fact that they haven't located a parachute or had him call in on his radio does not bode well.

Prayers for Capt. Haney and his family.

20 posted on 11/19/2010 12:42:04 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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