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Marines Unsure of New Rifle Plan
Military.com ^ | 11/17/2010 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 11/18/2010 11:16:23 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Lt. Gen. George Flynn, who heads the Marine Corps Combat Development Command in Quantico, told reporters at a Washington, D.C. breakfast that the service plans to finish outfitting five battalions with the new M-27 Infantry Automatic Rifle next month and then will observe how those Marines use it on deployment before changing the organization, training, and tactics of infantry units around the new weapon.

But Flynn pushed back at critics of the M-27, saying the improved accuracy of the Heckler and Koch-made automatic rifle makes up for a lower rate of fire compared to the M-249 Squad Automatic Weapon it's being fielded to replace.

"The initial feedback was that the IAR performed pretty well," Flynn said of early evaluations of the M-27. "Accuracy has a suppressive power all by itself."

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 556mm; banglist; hecklerkoch; iar; m27; marines; ordinance; quantico; usmc
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1 posted on 11/18/2010 11:16:30 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Why the hell are we buying kraut firearms?


2 posted on 11/18/2010 11:18:28 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

He’s certainly near the top of my list


3 posted on 11/18/2010 11:20:10 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Well, the Krauts make some good stuff, but we have a history of making some mighty fine firearms ourselves.


4 posted on 11/18/2010 11:32:50 PM PST by Husker24
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Mr. Mojo; James C. Bennett; mowowie; Captain Beyond; darkwing104; JRios1968; ...

Ping


5 posted on 11/18/2010 11:32:54 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: pissant

Tough to be an HK anything. They make superb firearms. I have a USP45 Tactical. Best automatic I own, though a little ‘big’.


6 posted on 11/18/2010 11:36:55 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

It’s a ludicrous ‘replacement’ for the 249


7 posted on 11/18/2010 11:40:52 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

We should make our own military rifles. This is beyond stupid.

The “outsourcing” of EVERYTHING has got to stop!


8 posted on 11/18/2010 11:42:07 PM PST by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

I agree. I do not like it at all.


9 posted on 11/18/2010 11:42:52 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: KoRn
Hk has made more than a few not so very good firearms, also. About as many flops as they've had success.

The one you own is primo, however.

10 posted on 11/18/2010 11:46:55 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (l)
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To: pissant

maybe because they make them better than us?


11 posted on 11/18/2010 11:49:44 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ROTB

most likely it will be manufactured here under license to HK. We fielded the Krag because it beat anything we had.

When guns cease to be evil, we will design better ones. We
have the Barrett, the LWRC, etc..


12 posted on 11/18/2010 11:52:41 PM PST by rahbert
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To: paul51

They don’t.


13 posted on 11/18/2010 11:55:24 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Here’s an interesting vid clip on the IAR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YzGzeLh3mc

It kind of sounds like a modern equivalent of the BAR.


14 posted on 11/19/2010 12:13:22 AM PST by DemforBush (If I ever get back my blue jeans...Lord, how happy could one man be?)
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To: pissant

Because we’ve pissed away our manufacturing base. We no longer make much of the tooling required to make products like weapons...

Germany, however, still makes a lot of machine tooling.


15 posted on 11/19/2010 1:11:26 AM PST by NVDave
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To: pissant
Why the hell are we buying kraut firearms?

Because we buy the best weapon whether it's American or not?

FWIW, the weapon it replaces, the M249 SAW? It's manufactured by FN Herstal, a Belgian arms company.

16 posted on 11/19/2010 1:12:23 AM PST by The Grammarian
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
"Accuracy has a suppressive power all by itself."

Well said General!

17 posted on 11/19/2010 1:13:01 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: pissant

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/


18 posted on 11/19/2010 1:13:33 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

19 posted on 11/19/2010 1:37:03 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: NVDave
Because we've pissed away our manufacturing base. We no longer make much of the tooling required to make products like weapons...

Actually, we now have more weapon manufacturers, especially of Stoner-patterned guns like this IAR, than we have ever had before. Raising demand in the face of import restrictions (try getting one of those dirt cheap Norinco AR15s) has created an environment in which every other machine shop is churning out their own receiver sets and bolt carriers groups. Anyone with even the most basic milling machine can purchase forged receiver blanks from suppliers like DSArms and produce serialized firearms faster than a custom wheel shop can turn out tire rims. Our domestic small arms industry is booming.

20 posted on 11/19/2010 1:48:08 AM PST by Brass Lamp
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