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Mark Shields: I've Never Heard a Democratic Leader Accuse Bush of Lying US Into War
Newsbusters ^ | November 20, 2010 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/21/2010 7:29:49 AM PST by Scanian

Syndicated columnist and PBS regular Mark Shields on Friday actually said on national television that he has never heard a Democratic leader or presidential candidate accuse former President George W. Bush of lying America into the Iraq War.

This was said in response to Charles Krauthammer telling his fellow "Inside Washington" panelists that this all too common media assertion is the "essential untruth of this decade" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

GORDON PETERSON, HOST: What’s happened to honest objective reporting?

EVAN THOMAS, NEWSWEEK: Well, I’m not sure there ever was honest objective reporting, but there is an interesting thing going on. You would think with the internet and cable and all these new outlets, more information should mean more truth. The more information, the freer, the more open it is should mean more truth. But I worry that the opposite has happened. That, there, it’s now more possible for untruth to adhere, to take hold. In the example that people were talking about this week was this thing that got out from first the Indian press, then to Drudge, then to the right wing radio guys and then Congress that Obama was spending $200 million a day on his foreign trip which was just nonsense. It was finally knocked down. But, you start to wonder, you hear, people get their information by the internet, by e-mails from their Uncle Joe. You know, if that’s where they are getting their information, is it possible that real untruth will take hold in a way that we didn’t think was possible in our system?

NINA TOTENBERG, NPR: I think that this a, this is worrisome, and it’s left and right. It’s the people who think the Bush administration somehow was responsible for 9/11, or that a trip that clearly costs in total something like five or six million at the most, and it’s really 200 million. It’s not the same, I mean a day. They’re, they’re not the same in importance obviously, but, but, this really, the fact that there is no -- there doesn’t seem to be any factual agreement about anything allows us to sort of entertain the most odd and conspiratorial fantasies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004election; dean; gore; lies
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To: Scanian

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365793062101552.html

That didn’t take long did it? Someone needs to acquaint Mr Shields with Google.


21 posted on 11/21/2010 8:05:53 AM PST by csmusaret (Q: How do they say incompetent failure in Kenya? A: Barack Obama)
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To: Mouton
““Shields needs a catscan, STAT!” Here is the result: Nothing here there.

This is the more likely result of such a scan:

MoonBat

22 posted on 11/21/2010 8:08:26 AM PST by doc11355
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To: Jim 0216
He contrived the WMD thing.

How about the French? Were they in cahoots with Dubya? And how about the Russians?

Everyone thought Iraq had WMDs before the war. It wasn't just Bush.

23 posted on 11/21/2010 8:10:58 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Jim 0216
"He contrived the WMD thing."

Read post 13 and try to pay attention before posting.

If President Bush "contrived the WMD thing" he sure had a strange group of fellow contrivers.

Logic is your friend, exercise your critical thinking skills.

24 posted on 11/21/2010 8:11:46 AM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: csmusaret

No, anybody who follows the news could come up with at least one comeback to Shields’ assertion.

I realize that nobody here much cares about the UN but how many resolutions were we going to allow Saddam to crap all over without actually DOING something about it?

Bush TRIED and Saddam DIED and I’m happy about it.


25 posted on 11/21/2010 8:13:34 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

He must have missed the Kerry and Obozo campaigns.

Pray for America


26 posted on 11/21/2010 8:13:48 AM PST by bray (A November to Remember)
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To: Jim 0216
In other words you can't name a single lie, repeat the leftist lie about WMD's, and feeeeeeeel that what he did was wrong.

That's a peculiar form of conservatism, tea party or otherwise.

27 posted on 11/21/2010 8:19:25 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Scanian

It proves that Democrats will crap all over the truth to score political points even if it undermines American security and costs American lives. Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton and their cohorts didn’t care how many GIs died as long as Bush got the blame. I promise I will piss on fat Teddy’s grave before I die.


28 posted on 11/21/2010 8:21:11 AM PST by csmusaret (Q: How do they say incompetent failure in Kenya? A: Barack Obama)
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To: Jim 0216
"He contrived the WMD thing. When that was exposed as a hoax, he invented "The Bush Doctrine" - invade countries and make them be democratic."

Not to appear disrespectful but you seem to have been out of the country or even off the planet during the run up to the Iraq war.

In this thread were posted exact quotes from many high ranking Democrats who themselves depended on Intel from not only our CIA but the Intel agencies of ALL our allies including Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Israel and even the UN itself. All agreed Iraq not only had WMD but was continually working on them. Bush used THIS information and the Congress accepted it as did Bush as valid and a good reason to proceed with the invasion.

You say this was a hoax and maybe it was (perpetrated by Hussein) but that is not a lie, is it? Hussein may well have been lying about hias stash of WMD but EVERYONE BELIEVED IT TO BE TRUE and if you has looked up the real meaning of what constitutes a lie before you responded, you would know there must be KNOWLEDGE what was being said was false before it was said. Bush and all the others whose information he trusted actually BELIEVED Hussein had the WMD and so there was NO lie.

29 posted on 11/21/2010 8:21:21 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Fresh Wind
I'm glad you posted that. A lot of people are either too stupid to remember those comments or are liars them selves. It could only be one of the two.
30 posted on 11/21/2010 8:24:04 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
>>>Shields needs a catscan, STAT! <<

Or maybe he's had too many already. Very high radiation exposure with CatScans.

31 posted on 11/21/2010 8:45:20 AM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That’s public televisions idea of diversity: a panel consisting of the liberal and even more liberal. That way, they cover all of the views worth having.


32 posted on 11/21/2010 8:46:26 AM PST by mojito
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To: Scanian
Yeah but to characterize Harry Reid as a leader might be stretching the truth a little too far. Even for Mark (Maxi) Shields.
33 posted on 11/21/2010 8:48:05 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: Souled_Out

Better said - the WMD thing was an issue seriously questioned by some of his own intelligence people, but Bush chose to order invasion of Iraq. I think evidence of his convoluted motivation was the subsequent invention of the so-called “Bush Doctrine.”


34 posted on 11/21/2010 8:48:55 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Fresh Wind

Touche’.


35 posted on 11/21/2010 8:50:32 AM PST by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: 101voodoo
Sorry - I think I could have said this better.

The WMD thing was an issue seriously questioned by some of his own intelligence people, but Bush chose to order invasion of Iraq. I think evidence of his convoluted motivation was the subsequent invention of the so-called “Bush Doctrine.”,p>

36 posted on 11/21/2010 8:54:48 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Yardstick
Sorry - I think I could have said this better.

The WMD thing was an issue seriously questioned by some of his own intelligence people, but Bush chose to order invasion of Iraq. I think evidence of his convoluted motivation was the subsequent invention of the so-called “Bush Doctrine.”

37 posted on 11/21/2010 8:58:45 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Souled_Out
Sorry - I think I could have said this better.

The WMD thing was an issue seriously questioned by some of his own intelligence people, but Bush chose to order invasion of Iraq. I think evidence of his convoluted motivation was the subsequent invention of the so-called “Bush Doctrine.”

38 posted on 11/21/2010 8:59:35 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Yardstick; Jim 0216; Souled_Out; 101voodoo; Scanian; rockrr

Jim 0216:
Always Wrong, Never in Doubt...


39 posted on 11/21/2010 9:09:06 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Good post.


40 posted on 11/21/2010 9:10:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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