Of course, you realise,
Posted on 11/21/2010 11:53:55 AM PST by Nachum
From the Examiner via Gateway Pundit, another TSA outrage from this weekend:
the defendant, Sam Wolanyk says he was asked to pass through the 3-D x-ray machine. When Wolanyk refused, Transportation Security Administration (TSA) personnel told him he would have to be patted down before he could pass through and board his airplane.
Wolanyk said he knew what was coming and took off his pants and shirt, leaving him in Calvin Klein bike undergarments.
“It was obvious that my underwear left nothing to the imagination,” he explained. “But that wasn’t enough for the TSA supervisor who was called to the scene and asked me to put my clothes on so I could be properly patted down.”
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TSA doesn’t have cuffs or arrest powers. Note in the article it was the Harbor Police.
I have a question for those of us that are ‘in the know’. Does the TSA have arrest powers or are they just faking it?
“Does the TSA have arrest powers or are they just faking it?”
They are faking it. However they can generate charges for the local police to arrest you on.
So rest easy that the security guard reject can screw up your life without justification and doesn’t even have the minimum controls that the police have.
Re: Filming TSA procedures.
Most airport security services do not allow filming of procedures. Years ago, transiting through Germany, an elderly man in our group with a back brace ended up semi-stripping to comply with security. Another in the group thought it was funny and snapped a few pics of Uncle H being frisked. The German security types jumped all over her. As I recall, they took her film.
The concern is legitimate: There is no reason the bad guys should be able to document and study security procedures at their leisure.
This is in no way to excuse the patently ridiculous, brain dead, offensive practices of the TSA.
I guess this is an example of why the word “worthless” so often appears prefixed to the word “bureaucrat”.
And what happens when the government thugs are the bad guys? Should their actions not be documented for all to see?
The United States is still a free society, barely. We have these freedoms because we are able to keep our government's actions open to the public. Anti-recording laws, which violate the first amendment of the constitution, serve only to hide the actions of our rogue government agents.
We must continue to peel back the shroud that hides their actions from us.
There would be physical conflict if this out of control Government Agency illegally confiscated MY property!
It is ONLY a matter of time until this happens and I will predict that it will go down sometime this holiday season.
If the Government can take, touch, or handle ANYTHING you own without any checks or balances we are no longer a Democratic Republic.
I am sure the EPA (and other intrusive agencies) is watching this and just licking their chops to be next in line to apply this logic to GOVERN us.
There are airport police departments at each airport. They are usually behind the screeners. Actually, you might not believe this but they pick up lots of people who have outstanding warrants who come to get passengers at the airport terminals.
So, TSA comes to get you with airport police and then they book you with a municipal warrant.
Sad, but I’ve BTDT, but I beat TSA as the screener was trying for a raise/promotion and luckily I had a history of a security pass for all but runway and taxiways. BUT, it was a terrible 3 hours knowing if they didn’t void it I’d be searched everytime I boarded a plane anywhere.
FWIW, I think the airport police were the nicest I’d come across in Austin. Since I worked at the airport though, the City of Austin has taken them over so now the demeanor has changed with them since many “street” police are there now. Very Sad!
What’s BTDT?
I just cancelled my flights and my hotel for my trip home to New York City for Christmas. I will have recently had surgery at that point, and I’m sure not going to have them zapping me or grabbing parts that will be very sensitive. Instead, I booked a room for the Christmas week at someplace I can drive to and which my kids in other states can also reach by car.
The airlines, if they wish to stay in business, should oppose this.
This reminds me of the fight in the war room in Dr. Strangelove. "There's no fighting in the war room."
You can see, he's not hiding anything. But the TSA MUST follow procedures, so the guy has to put on his clothes to get groped. This is about safety. Really?
Document and study?
There is nothing to document and study!
The L3 Communications scanners or similar are nearly universal around the world.
Swabbing for residue is also common throughout the world.
Pat downs are not something that needs study.
If a million people need to strip because somewhere, someone *might* have some explosive device surgically implanted into their bodies then we have lost the war.
Re: “physical conflict....”
Exactly! I just said to my husband that if these guys don’t watch it, we’re going to see one of ‘em lynched.
Which, of course is just what the powers that be want.
That was very wise. I have a friend that had a mastectomy at a specialized cancer center, and she was returning home. The TSA agents stopped her to give her the "patdown". She had a note from her doctor, explaining that she was recovering from surgery, and that she should be handled gently. She said not only did they ignore the note, they treated her roughly, made her feel like a criminal, and then pressed so hard on her incisions that she cried; she was certain they had opened them.
I was so outraged for her when she told this to a group of us. This 50-something woman surely looked threatening. (do I need a tag there?) Grrrr.
The most disturbing thing about the comments on that site was all their willingness to go along with the loss of freedoms and suggesting that not going along makes you a bad citizen. Conditioning of the sheep is alive and well.
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