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Deliberate or Accidental, a New Korean War Would be Devastating
Politics Daily ^ | 11/23/2010 | David Wood

Posted on 11/23/2010 7:29:21 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: cliff630
This goes back to 1951. Our first war after WW2. Truman fired McArthur who wanted to use tactical nuclear weapons. 35-40 thousand dead Americans. This war set the stage that America would not fight to win a war. Truman's decision won him lasting praise.* China was still under the grip of Mao. 85 million Chinese were slaughtered under Mao.

*not mine.

Yep.The die was cast decades ago that the US was NOT committed to "winning" ANY war thereafter, but only maintaining stalemates. A State Dept. moled with Commies made sure of IT, and bear responsibility for the situation we have today - including 0bama, the socialist media and Academe.

Though the US has held every measure of clout and influence available from the 1950s until 2000, the US Ruling Elites NEVER made the issue of NK affect China's "Most Favored Nation" status.

This is all part of the end result of FDR Dem-Commies marrying the Rockefeller GOP Globalists of the NWO. That is one Ugly %$#@! Chicken come home to roost.

41 posted on 11/23/2010 8:11:06 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: mountn man

He looks like such an Urkel in that photo.


42 posted on 11/23/2010 8:11:36 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Let's do nothing, sit back, and allow the expansion of central planning "prosperity" to all countries... (Kids starving from malnutrition in North Korea:)
43 posted on 11/23/2010 8:11:45 PM PST by 4Liberty ( How do you spell "moral hazard"?: $ 19, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Could Obama be the first president since Truman to use a nuke on another (Asian) country?

Would it be racist if he did?

44 posted on 11/23/2010 8:11:55 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: lurk
Unless they are re-supplied and reinforced from China, they’re going to run out of people, food, or ammo fairly quickly.

Amateurs talk tactics. Professionals talk logistics. North Korea can theoretically lob a half million shells an hour at South Korea, for several hours, but we hear stories that many of their citizens eat grass because they're so short on food. Their resupply problems, absent the Chinese, are insurmountable.

45 posted on 11/23/2010 8:12:46 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire')
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“As having been busy little beavers producing Hyundai cars, as well as owner of Hyundai Steel - the world’s 2nd largest steel producer in the world - I’d hope South Korea took sufficient measures and “might” to knock NK on their *ss all by themselves.

I’m tired of the US military and taxpayer fighting and financing the world’s battles. If it were up to me, the 35,000 or so American troops standing as sentries for SK would have pulled out decades ago.”

exactly right!!


46 posted on 11/23/2010 8:13:51 PM PST by utax
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To: cliff630
My Dad, (rip), was in the Korean War for 18 months. He told me he hated Truman for firing "Mac".

If you ever asked my Dad what he thought about the norks or chicoms' he'd say "Fry em!".

47 posted on 11/23/2010 8:14:10 PM PST by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: piytar
Your "de-fanging" proposal is interesting. Yes, QUITE "by surprise."

Obama should NOT be told. The Won would betray them, probably under cover of “preventing escalation,” but we all know that wouldn’t be his real reason.

Understandably, the Marxist-in-Chief is THE last person to consult.

48 posted on 11/23/2010 8:14:32 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: 4Liberty

... Korea :)
meant to be
colon & closed bracket
- not smiley face,
obviously.


49 posted on 11/23/2010 8:15:09 PM PST by 4Liberty ( How do you spell "moral hazard"?: $ 19, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Sorry, IMHO, not proportional. The Nork leadership could not care less about their troops killed in a proportional response. They’ll set in their dachas, play victim, and plan their next attack.

Disproportional. Massively. Nothing else will cut this short before WWIII breaks out.

I believe the same applies to the Israeli situation. Same enemy, different face. Proportional responses don’t work with that enemy.

Will there be blood? Yup. Lots. The longer the world waits, though, the more blood there will be.


50 posted on 11/23/2010 8:15:54 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: piytar
35,000 American casualties would "make" that SOB traitor's "day."

US Allies should by now know to act unilaterally as long as The Punk Won is CiC.

51 posted on 11/23/2010 8:17:02 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: arasina

I don’t think there will be a fight ...rather there will be an agreement made that China take over N.Korea and N.Korea will agree...so will S.Korea...once this thing plays out.


52 posted on 11/23/2010 8:19:37 PM PST by caww
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Barry is expecting/forcing SK to act like Israel when they are shelled by the sub-human nut-cases across the border.

All Jews, Christians, and capitalists must withstand any abuse by Muslims, communists, and parasites, and shrug it off as just punishment for not being Muslims, communists, or parasites.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

53 posted on 11/23/2010 8:20:32 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: piytar
Sorry, IMHO, not proportional.

I apologize - I should have clarifies that as the "official" response. Disproportional. Massively. Nothing else will cut this short before WWIII breaks out. I believe the same applies to the Israeli situation. Same enemy, different face. Proportional responses don’t work with that enemy.

Here ya. That should be SK's un-consulted unilateral response. Make it too late for the Mrs. Klintoon or the Punk Won to respond in time.

54 posted on 11/23/2010 8:20:32 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: caww

North Korea has been under Chinese control since its creation.


55 posted on 11/23/2010 8:20:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: lurk

“I don?t see the motive for the Norks to start something big, or the value to them.”

You’re thinking rationally. The Nork leadership isn’t rational. They believe that they are invincible. They are buying into their own propaganda, maybe because anyone who disagrees is shot...


56 posted on 11/23/2010 8:23:09 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
war? It would be a resumption of combat operations of an existing war. =8-)

Yeah...My spry 80+ year old father can re-up in the US Navy aboard the new USS Owen and pick up in that "non-war" where they left off - NO WHERE ;-)

57 posted on 11/23/2010 8:24:43 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: piytar

I think you are off tangent on the rationality part. The North Korean regime has survived this long because it is rational. It has perfected the art of brinkmanship by ratcheting tensions and then stepping back after gaining concessions. If they truly thought they were invincible, they would have attempted an invasion long ago.


58 posted on 11/23/2010 8:25:51 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: piytar
they have one course of action: A massive coordinated de-fanging and decapitation attack.

That just isn't going to happen. China will step into this long before that becomes even a possibility. The news now fills up with all the meetings each and every nation is doing now. These talks will either produce the same sanctions etc...and or there will be an agreement that China takes over the Governance of N.Korea...and they will agree. Just a matter of time.....

59 posted on 11/23/2010 8:26:59 PM PST by caww
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To: utax
The US Military has played "World Cop" for over 65 years.

Now that we are broke and battling the internal takeover of our own government by Communists and Ruling Elite Globalists, who's left to help (or finance) us?

60 posted on 11/23/2010 8:28:44 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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