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WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton ordered US diplomats to 'spy'
news.in.msn.com ^ | 11/29/2010 | news.in.msn.com

Posted on 11/29/2010 8:13:14 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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To: a fool in paradise
Sounds like it borders on identity theft and fraud.

and if, for instance, some foreign diplomat is racking up charges at some porn site or titty bar, it could very be useful to know.

This is high stakes diplomacy, not you local city council meeting. All knowledge can be advantageous. I want to know everything possible about not only my adversaries, but also my 'friends.'

41 posted on 11/29/2010 8:49:58 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I hate it, but Hillary was right on this one.


42 posted on 11/29/2010 8:54:27 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Aren’t attaches basically spies?


43 posted on 11/29/2010 8:54:27 AM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Ditto

Business is business but credit card numbers?

To monitor what they buy? This is intel that is above Clinton’s pay grade.


44 posted on 11/29/2010 8:54:48 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Ditto
Sounds like this should be standard operating procedure for diplomats. Intelligence such as ‘knowing’ as much as possible about your counterparts’ professional and personal life is a corner stone of sound diplomacy.

Everybody spies, businessmen are sometimes questioned by intelligence when they return from foreign business trips, and anyone that doesn't know that soldiers on exchange training operations are not gathering intelligence on their friendly counterparts, is naive. Our diplomats better be gathering intel on their foreign peers.

45 posted on 11/29/2010 8:56:06 AM PST by ansel12
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To: antiRepublicrat

I am beginning to get the feeling that this whole thing is a set up. The Bush era docs were, quite frankly, boring and gave us nothing new. The Obama stuff that I have heard about is not much of anything new. The fact that the financing of Al Aqaeda is coming from SA is an eight year old story and everyone, everyone, knows that this has been the case.

I am not at all sure what is going on here, but I am not convinced that it is what we are begin told.

Just sayin’....


46 posted on 11/29/2010 8:56:23 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I am beginning to get the feeling that this whole thing is a set up. The Bush era docs were, quite frankly, boring and gave us nothing new. The Obama stuff that I have heard about is not much of anything new. The fact that the financing of Al Aqaeda is coming from SA is an eight year old story and everyone, everyone, knows that this has been the case.

I am not at all sure what is going on here, but I am not convinced that it is what we are beng told.

Just sayin’....


47 posted on 11/29/2010 8:56:49 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

0:132 CABLE 704562
TO: Embassy
RE:State Department Secret
Hillary is a cow.
TOP SECRET


48 posted on 11/29/2010 8:57:11 AM PST by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: Ditto
They call it blackmail when you use such personal details to put your adversary over a barrel in negotiations.
49 posted on 11/29/2010 8:57:29 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: wastedyears

More business for the Clinton Global Initiative?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40409033

Nothing to see here move along the Clinton’s care about feeding starving children and that is it!


50 posted on 11/29/2010 8:58:08 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: antiRepublicrat
that diplomats gather information for their governments.
51 posted on 11/29/2010 8:58:17 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
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To: Clock King; Revolting cat!; The Comedian
Aren’t all diplomats spies?

Sure makes the case for putting bugs in their embassies, don't it?!!

52 posted on 11/29/2010 9:00:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise
They call it blackmail when you use such personal details to put your adversary over a barrel in negotiations.

This is diplomacy, not a shakedown racket. The rules are different.

You can bet your ass that most every other country does it to our diplomats.

53 posted on 11/29/2010 9:07:27 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Hillary Clinton asked US diplomats to gather the passwords and encryption keys of top United Nations officials, as well as details of the private networks they use to communicate.

In one of the most controversial of the first batch of embassy cables released by Wikileaks, she sought information that would be useful for cyber-espionage operations.

The “National HUMINT Collection Directive”, sent by the State Department to US diplomats around the world In July last year, specifically targets the UN and its IT systems.

It calls for reports on “current technical specifications, physical layout, and planned upgrades to telecommunications infrastructure and information systems, networks, and technologies used by top officials and their support staffs”.

The cable also demands “details on commercial and private VIP networks used for official communications, to include upgrades, security measures, passwords, personal encryption keys, and types of VPN versions used”.

Confirmation that the US spies on top UN officials is no surprise: the GCHQ whistleblower Katharine Gun revealed details of bugging operations in 2003, in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. However, critics of American foreign policy are arguing the Wikileaks cable shows a blurring of the line between traditional diplomacy, which relies on trust, and the dark art of espionage, which relies on abusing trust.
hilllaryclinton

“Gimme your password, will ya?”

Clinton’s wish-list is certainly comprehensive. She asks for:

* “telephone numbers and email addresses of key officials;
* limited distribution telephone numbers/directories and public switched networks (PSTN) telephone directories”
* “Dialing numbers for voice, datalink, video teleconferencing, wireless communications systems, cellular systems, personal communications systems, and wireless facsimiles.”
* “Information on hacking or other security incidents involving UN networks.”
* “Key personnel and functions of UN entity that maintains UN communications and computer networks.”
* “Information about current and future use of communications systems and technologies by officials or organizations – including cellular phone networks, mobile satellite phones, very small aperture terminals (VSAT), trunked and mobile radios, pagers, prepaid calling cards, firewalls, encryption, international connectivity, use of electronic data interchange, Voice-over-Internet Protocol (VoIP), worldwide interoperability for microwave access (WiMax), and cable and fiber networks.”

There is a full copy of the Directive here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/219058

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/29/wikileaks_un_cyber/


54 posted on 11/29/2010 9:07:47 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: dead
The US is interested in spying on agents of a communist regime!

No effin' way!

To find out what they are doing wrong, and offer assistance and advice.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

55 posted on 11/29/2010 9:09:11 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Sad to say - but she would be better than Barry.

Marginally so, but true.

56 posted on 11/29/2010 9:12:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

No problem...Hilary just needs to dig out that “reset” button. This how cartoon characters always handle problems.


57 posted on 11/29/2010 9:20:40 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Truth is a Weapon; Conservative Tsunami
I still don’t understand why the Wikileaks guy is not room temp by now.

Wikileaks is not "one guy". Assange is simply the figurehead at the front.

There are many people behind the scenes of Wikileaks, doing the heavy lifting. Many are anonymous, some are not. And according to some accounts, a few of them are not happy with Assange's antics.

But, even if Assange were to suddenly have a fit of remorse and drop out of sight, Wikileaks would go on.

58 posted on 11/29/2010 9:20:40 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Ditto

There is strong suspicion that Scott Ritter was blackmailed into turning on America.


59 posted on 11/29/2010 11:06:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise
There is strong suspicion that Scott Ritter was blackmailed into turning on America.

With his sexual obsession with little girls, I'd just about bet on it.

60 posted on 11/29/2010 11:08:57 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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