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[!Article About Fed DomainName Seizures!] Gizmodo Goes Crazy, Reality Isn't What It Seems
Market Ticker ^ | 11/27/2010 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 11/29/2010 11:56:54 AM PST by Lazamataz

ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement) apparently "seized" a bunch of domain pointers the last couple of days and has generated an immense amount of heat and damn little light.

I'll try to add a bit of light and hopefully, not much (if any) heat.

First, these sorts of things are not new. I used to get subpoenas from Customs on a somewhat-regular basis when I ran MCSNet. I considered them one of the more-reasonable government agencies, actually - they paid for their document production and were rational people.

For those who are unaware if you're importing something into the country (yes, digitally counts) Customs has a right to get involved. I know, I know, the all-on "open borders" folks will scream, but the fact of the matter is that this is in fact a specifically-delegated power.

Second, it appears they're actually getting court orders. This means they're convincing a Judge in a US District Court to issue the seizure warrant.

Note that they didn't seize the site - they can't, as it's outside the United States (beyond their jurisdiction.) Instead they seized the domain name pointers.

Meh. That's a lot of staff attorney time and trouble to get a big fat nothing out of it, which is exactly what they get going down this road. Why? Because all they can do is redirect the domain pointers which will do exactly nothing when the sites re-register under a top-level domain not under the US Government's jurisdiction - and there are lots of them.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Technical
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GREAT ARTICLE that explains a lot. Denninger is one of the good ones, and he brings a lot more information to the table. This makes me breath a little easier.....
1 posted on 11/29/2010 11:56:55 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson

If you get the domain name registered at a toplevel registrant, not in the United States, the Feds cannot touch you. Please read.


2 posted on 11/29/2010 11:58:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: meyer; kristinn; GreaterSwiss; yldstrk; Cacique; mazda77; COBOL2Java; EBH; coloradan; Outland; ...

Important article. Please read.


3 posted on 11/29/2010 12:03:11 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: TheCipher; bronzey; SunkenCiv; SumProVita; Thommas; EGPWS; thethirddegree; for-q-clinton; cbkaty; ..

Important article. Please read.


4 posted on 11/29/2010 12:06:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: Lazamataz

ICANN-Accredited Registrars

http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accredited-list.html

Find the most liberal country (Sweden?) and register a variant of your domain name and point it to the current site - then publicize the variant as an emergence backup.


5 posted on 11/29/2010 12:11:44 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Bttt.

5.56mm

6 posted on 11/29/2010 12:37:53 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Lazamataz

That was great information. Thanks for pinging me on this one. LOL!


7 posted on 11/29/2010 12:38:17 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Lazamataz

bfl


8 posted on 11/29/2010 12:56:26 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Actually, there’s no need to use a variant. You could simply register in, say, thailand, and it would be www.freerepublic.th


9 posted on 11/29/2010 1:18:54 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: Lazamataz; Revolting cat!
Actually, there’s no need to use a variant. You could simply register in, say, thailand, and it would be www.freerepublic.th

Barneyfrankrock.th!!!

10 posted on 11/29/2010 1:24:08 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Lazamataz

They shut down http://www.Torrent-Finder.com but you can see the same site at http://www.Torrent-Finder.info

This was one of my favorite bit-torrent search engines.
Glad I’m not in the USA!


11 posted on 11/29/2010 1:31:40 PM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: Lazamataz

You’re pinging me? Huh.

Anyway, Jim Robinson already registered FREEREPUBLIC.INFO nine years and one day ago.


12 posted on 11/29/2010 2:04:11 PM PST by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Lazamataz; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Laz, looks like you’ve hit it. Oh, sorry.


13 posted on 11/29/2010 4:17:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Mojave
You’re pinging me? Huh.

Sure. You were on the other thread. I don't hold anything against you.

14 posted on 11/29/2010 4:49:10 PM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: Lazamataz; Jim Robinson; conniew

Thanks, Laz. Not sure, but I believe that the over-reach of government bureaucracy is the reason Free Dominion of Canada relocated their server’s colo to Panama. Is it 1938 yet?


15 posted on 11/29/2010 7:18:11 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! Â)
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To: Mojave
Anyway, Jim Robinson already registered FREEREPUBLIC.INFO nine years and one day ago.

*.info domains are still under the control of ICANN (and the US government).

What Laz is suggesting that freerepublic.* be registered at some place outside the control of ICANN.

16 posted on 11/29/2010 8:08:21 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

http://torrent-finder.info


17 posted on 11/29/2010 8:55:58 PM PST by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Mojave
Looks like ICE overlooked that one -- not that they should have taken it down at all. That site apparently does nothing but provide a search engine for other sites, and doesn't provide any copyrighted content.

However, *.info domains are controlled by ICANN, too.

18 posted on 11/29/2010 9:01:36 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking
*.info domains are controlled by ICANN, too.

ICE isn't ICANN.

ICANN had no role in seizing torrent domains

19 posted on 11/30/2010 3:55:17 AM PST by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Lazamataz

Bump


20 posted on 11/30/2010 4:55:04 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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