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To: EdLake
He was a diagnosed sociopath. That means he was very skillful at fooling people into thinking he was a nice guy when he was actually manipulating them to do what he wanted them to do.

First of all, if he was a diagnosed sociopath, he either would not have been granted access to the BSL3 labs, or it would have been pulled and he would have been sent packing. Getting access to a BSL3 or BSL4 lab is not a trivial matter. Ft. Detrick isn't exactly like the average university--people can't just come in and work. Also, I don't know about you, but to me, sociopaths stand out as clearly as if they are wearing signs. I cannot tolerate being around them.

The FBI didn't zero in on Dr. Hatfill. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg got the media to focus in on Hatfill, and she got some staffers for some Senators to DEMAND that the FBI investigate Hatfill.

Who was this Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, and since she was in New York, how could she know a fellow (one of many) at Ft. Detrick, or have a clue as to what kind of work he was doing for his fellowship? That whole explanation sounds fishy to me. He wasn't fingered by Rosenberg.

64 posted on 12/01/2010 6:17:27 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom
exDemMom wrote: "First of all, if he was a diagnosed sociopath, he either would not have been granted access to the BSL3 labs, or it would have been pulled and he would have been sent packing. Getting access to a BSL3 or BSL4 lab is not a trivial matter."

According to court records, Ivins had a "history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, actions, plans" and Ivins' psychiatrist, Dr. David S, Irwin called him "homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions."

In 2001, USAMRIID was incredibly lax in many areas of security. FBI records show that everyone at USAMRIID knew that security was lax. The military people were constantly complaining about how lax the civilian scientists were. They even let Ivins work with dangerous pathogens alone and unsupervised in his BSL-3 lab at night and on weekends. Hopefully, new procedures will keep such mentally unstable people away from dangerous pathogens.

"I don't know about you, but to me, sociopaths stand out as clearly as if they are wearing signs. I cannot tolerate being around them."

They give me the creeps, too. But, you usually have to get them talking about other people or one of their obsessions before you can tell that they're sociopaths.

"Who was this Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, and since she was in New York, how could she know a fellow (one of many) at Ft. Detrick, or have a clue as to what kind of work he was doing for his fellowship? That whole explanation sounds fishy to me. He wasn't fingered by Rosenberg."

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg was a science adviser to President Clinton. She was a bioterrorism expert for the Federation of American Scientists. She's also an activist opposed to U.S. Government work on bioweapons. She attended Biological and Toxic Weapons Conventions in Geneva. At the one in July of 2001, she was enraged when the U.S. refused to allow outsider inspections of U.S. government labs. At the one in November of 2001 she was already pointing the finger at Hatfill (without naming him) and claiming that the U.S. government was behind the anthrax attacks.

She never met Dr. Hatfill. She only learned of him by contacting others in a search for the person at Ft. Detrick who would most likely be a rogue scientist or a CIA operative helping the government to cover up some illegal bioweapons manufacturing facility. In one newspaper interview, she described how Hatfill's name came up. As I recall, it was during an exchange of emails with other people she knew.

Rosenberg's activities are documented, step by step, as she campaigned for eight monthsto get Dr. Hatfill investigated by the FBI. Click HERE for the timeline of her campaign, showing all the newspaper articles describing here campaign. Click HERE for a detailed description of her campaign using the Federation of American Scientists' web site to express her beliefs.

I've talked 5 times on the phone with Dr. Hatfill. And I've communicated many time with his lawyer. If the newspaper articles and FAS postings aren't enough, you can also look at the court records in Hatfill's lawsuit against the New York Times. Nicholas Kristoff of the New York Times helped Rosenberg by writing columns pointing the finger at Hatfill.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

73 posted on 12/02/2010 7:21:54 AM PST by EdLake
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To: exDemMom

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121799265899216039.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


82 posted on 12/02/2010 5:39:55 PM PST by Justice Department
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