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Cantor: Republicans will keep some provisions of healthcare law intact (Here we go!!)
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Posted on 11/30/2010 9:56:46 AM PST by roses of sharon

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To: Spok
I would like that as well.
The problem is the President threw two almost entitlements out there.
People getting insurance through their parents and those who can't get it are big issues IMO.
If the Republicans want to keep it, fine, but let the people wanting it get the real cost, not some subsidized cost.
On uninsurables, let them have to pay 10k a month for a year before benefits kick in and for the 26 year old, charge them market prices like $300 a month.
The insurance companies are not supposed to be entitlements.
181 posted on 11/30/2010 12:40:15 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: combat_boots
“I can’t speak to his views, I can take a message”

This is what EVERY office is saying. Every last damn one.

Boehner's office sends you straight to Vmail.

They've had this standard response planned since summer, I'm sure.

Nothing's changed. What more proof do we need to see that the GOP could give a flip about liberty and freedom?

182 posted on 11/30/2010 12:47:14 PM PST by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: roses of sharon

Don’t have too high of expectations. We didn’t gain that much. We only control one half of one third of the government. I tell you this much though, I don’t trust that Cantor. I used to think I liked him, but I don’t know. He reminds me of that Brownstripe guy.

Well, maybe just as well that the pubes continue to infuriate. It will keep our momentum up.


183 posted on 11/30/2010 12:49:56 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: JewishRighter
anything less sends the message that you are compromising and cooperating with an evil doctrine and its practitioners

but...but...but...the perfect is the enemy of the good, and you must compromise to maintain the big tent, and principles are just a vote for the muzzcomm.../rin-o-p FR lectures...

184 posted on 11/30/2010 12:50:47 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Corin Stormhands

We didn’t get enough of the goverment to really repeal that mess. I guess it goes forward full bore.


185 posted on 11/30/2010 12:57:05 PM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: sickoflibs
...That makes it even more fun to ask you...

Well, sorry to disappoint you.

186 posted on 11/30/2010 1:28:45 PM PST by MaggieCarta (What are we here for but to provide sport for our neighbors, and to laugh at them in our turn?Austen)
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To: MaggieCarta
RE :”That makes it even more fun to ask you...
Well, sorry to disappoint you.

Sorry???

Do you think she's qualified? Conservative? , Smart? Serious? A victim? A martyr ? A Deity? A prophet? An Angel? (or an Angle LOL), Does she have your vote? How about your first born if she asks?

NO COMMENT! LOL

187 posted on 11/30/2010 1:38:04 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Gilbo_3
but...but...but...the perfect is the enemy of the good, and you must compromise to maintain the big tent, and principles are just a vote for the muzzcomm.../rin-o-p FR lectures...

I recognize the sarc, but there still is a serious point because the argument you are kidding about is one they will actually make. In other circumstances, the argument would not only have some force but would even be right (see, eg. Ronald Reagan compromising to get tax cuts). But today, especially after the Nov 2 tsunami, things are different. Ideological purity, normally unrealistic in politics, is the order of the day because we are at the rarest of moments in history: a chance to really turn things around, a second Reagan revolution, if you want. But, lacking a Reagan, we have the Tea Party idea that has caught fire. That fire will only continue to blaze and even grow greater if the people at the heart and soul of that movement see action consistent with the spirit that won such glorious victories this past election day. And that means the new Republican majority has to make a sharp, clean break with the past to make it clear that they get it: no retreat, no surrender, no compromise. My greatest fear is that just a few "little" retreats, like compromise on Obamanation Care, a few little back door deals in the business-as-usual model, a few earmarks here and there and we will become dispirited and cynical and go back to sleep, hoping to wake up when the nightmare is over.

188 posted on 11/30/2010 2:35:16 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: roses of sharon

Let’s face it - no matter who you vote for, the minute they step into office they turn into a**holes. Period. End of story.


189 posted on 11/30/2010 2:38:34 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: roses of sharon
Looks like we have some more housecleaning to do! I'm so mad I could spit nails when I hear this stuff from a supposed "Conservative". As Rush said today: "Covering all pre-existing conditions is WELFARE NOT INSURANCE."

Lots more RINO's need to go before we can fix this problem. Get ready for the primaries in 2012 and vote them out!

190 posted on 11/30/2010 2:59:49 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: JewishRighter; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
the argument you are kidding about is one they will actually continue to make...

I realize politics is the art of arguing and 'horsetradin' and that theres legitimate compromise on legitimate and appropriately delegated issues...

my sarc comes from being berated and talked down to from on-high by a contingent of rino worshipper statists, who cant keep their condescending attitudes anywhere close to the Constitution...

we will keep see a fire kindled, in hopes of the 'next' big purge and a return to FReedom, only to see the asshats goto DC and get lured by whatever it is they desire, and allow themselves to be watered down...for the few who stand their ground, theyll be routinely marginalized and alinskyed and will either ultimately give in, or be the center of the circular firing squad...

at this point, if they dont have an ironclad record or I cant interview em myself and 'deem' em trustworthy enuff to welcome into my dining room, then they are just whores in training...{apologies to all professional 'service' providers that actually seek to give the happy ending and bang-for-the-buck]...

the rest of this exercise is geared towards building a certain amount of patience and powder for change...

191 posted on 11/30/2010 3:51:12 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: goldstategop
Republicans now believe 26 years olds are children.

Because many act like children! I wonder how many who are on their parents' insurance, are parents themselves. Will people soon have their grands on their insurance?

Some of this stuff is so pathetic that it would be laughable if not so serious!

192 posted on 11/30/2010 3:58:05 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale

I smell what yer cookin’, G-3. You have every justification based on what we’ve witnessed in politics in the last couple of decades. Not that it hasn’t always been so to some degree, but it seems like you can measure it from the post-Watergate era and then Clintoon when it went completely to hell and the Republicans became as feckless as any democRAT and the RATS became so wigged-out lefty and crooked it’s a shame to compare them to honest living ladies of the evening.

I’d like to offer you some encouragement to be found in what we’ve seen coming from ordinary good people these last 2 years since the big 0 came in. The Tea Party movement, the big rallies, town hall meetings, the organizing and so on. There truly is a massive grass roots uprising in the land that isn’t going to go away too soon. I hope they’re melting down Cantor’s phone lines right now.


193 posted on 11/30/2010 6:12:53 PM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: Gilbo_3; JewishRighter; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
On one hand I understand that Republicans are still not popular and don't have a mandate to do lots of unpopular stuff. And I don't want to see the public turn on them and back to Democrats so soon. And I fully expected them to cave on this and posted that prediction many times this year.

But on the other hand if they cant do this, what is the chances that they will cut spending? I mean getting rid of the personal mandates while keeping these mandates on ins companies is irresponsible. It's similar to cutting taxes while leaving all of Obama’s new spending intact. OOOOPS, do we see what's coming?

194 posted on 11/30/2010 6:21:37 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP

The Pubs are starting to cave on the Healthcare reform.

Narcissism is no longer going to be considered a Psychiatric disorder.

It’s now ok to use others Social Security cards.

The courts just threw away the latest case regarding Obama’s citizenship.

Eight Republicans defect and rejected the earmark ban.

Perhaps WIKILEAKS is a ‘good thing’ because it’s darned sure no one in our country is going to go against Obama.

They seem to be clearing away anything that could cause him trouble, one by one.


195 posted on 11/30/2010 6:33:39 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Reagan is King

Term limits is the only solution...


196 posted on 11/30/2010 6:34:32 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: myself6

I’m not commenting on what Cantor said, but in general I think the only way is secession. When my mind isn’t busy, I try to imagine how it could work. It just can’t be North and South, too much intermingling. Maybe each one of us can belong to a country among ourselves, each having a card stating what country you belong to. Conservatives carry guns and keep their money, libs live in getto-like communities, get no guns and throw any money they make into the common pot.


197 posted on 11/30/2010 6:45:30 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: potlatch

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Good post potlatch -

I am not sure - but it seems to me that a number the Republicans that voted for the Foodie Bill -510- and are also going squishy on Obamacare now - after the midterm elections - appear to be among those that backed off from the Tea Party and wanted to be the King Makers -

One of the backstabbers from Maine is up for re-election in 2012 - Let’s start targeting these RINOS bigtime now and not just accept a bunch of arrogant Arlen “Unicorn
Killer” Spector clones - at that goes double for the illegal aliens, drug gang violence, “Dream Act”, subsidized college tuition for illegals, and amnesty by any other name available

- I don’t ever recall hearing Obama, Pelosi, or Reid ever saying “We will have to do this very slowly.....” early in 2009 -

We need to thin the old herd in the Senate - and make sure all the young renegade bulls are castrated pronto

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198 posted on 11/30/2010 7:02:41 PM PST by devolve
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To: DTogo
Hardly.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

199 posted on 11/30/2010 7:06:02 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: devolve

We knew they would go squishy, but the new ones aren’t ‘in’ yet. 23 Dem Senators up for reelection in 2012, we have to get rid of them and all RINOs.

Today on Special Report they showed a newsman questioning Gibbs. The Dems plan to push through three programs in the next 18 days, one is the Dream Act.

Sen.obama;
I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.”
GREENVILLE, South Carolina 10/7/07


200 posted on 11/30/2010 7:12:24 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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