Posted on 11/30/2010 10:28:55 AM PST by bigbob
During the late eighties I was assigned to NORAD, as a Command Director initially and later as the assistant Director of Operations for NORAD. The NORAD operation was located inside the Cheyenne Mountain complex just outside Colorado Springs, Colorado. Twenty four hours a day a team of approximately 150 highly trained individuals, lead by a Brigadier General, monitored one of the most sophisticated computer systems in the world. This system was fed data from many different sensors that were able to detect missile shots from any point on the globe. All this data was taken into consideration when making the "assessment" as whether or not North America and/or Canada were threatened by such a launch. If the launch was assessed as a true threat, the President was contacted immediately by NORAD through a military individual always close to the President who carried what we called, "the football", a black brief case with release codes for our nuclear forces. I know the system well, as for near three years I led one of those teams.
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I understand the difference in an aircraft contrail and a missile launch contrail.
In my opinion there is absolutely no doubt that what was captured on video off the coast of California was a missile launch, was clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star General in minutes, and passed to the President immediately. That is the way the system works, and heads fall if there is a failure. This is one of the most important tenets of National Defense and its sole purpose of protecting the American people. Even the smallest failure in this system gets intense scrutiny at the highest level.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanconservativedaily.com ...
On November 16th I sent the following to press.releases@janes.com
and to General Editorial at Jane’s.
“Have you done a detailed analysis of the Nov.8,2010 controversial (contrail?/missile?) occurrence off the coast of LA?
Your first impression is being touted as the final word on the occurrence.
Has there been any additional effort on the part of Jane’s to seriously investigate the occurrence?”
They haven’t gotten back to me.
If the level of critical thinking visible around this subject is any indicator, most people would fall for the average Scooby Doo janitor-in-a-sheet gag.
And they'd get away with it too, if it wasn't for us meddling kids.
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Hyperbole, anyone?
"Massively witnessed"? Name anyone -- ANYONE -- with the exception of a handful of photographers who have shared their photos -- who has come forward as an "eyewitness" to this "launch"(...off the coast of one of the US's most densely populated areas).
"Massively denied"? Aside from the above few photographers, name over a handful of people who have actually collected, analyzed, and produced documents denying that this was a missile.
What is massive is the ignorance and gullibility of the numerous people who followed a few prominent "Pied Pipers" who watched 14 seconds of chopped and mixed up video (taken after sunset) and then opined that they had seen a "missile launch".
Purpose? To transport UPS-shipped goods from Hawaii to CA.
Just a thought.
The guys at NR sometimes answer me when I write, but I doubt they would respond to this.
Could be, or they all still believe it to be so.
Who knows.
My interest is in collecting ALL the evidence (not "expert" opinions) and in following where it leads. The facts so far have all been matters of somewhat complex physics and geometry and human perception (as in perspective effects).
Just keep your mind open -- and look for facts -- not opinions and politically-driven theories...
Nice chatting with you! :-)
“My guess is that some of the famous folk — generals, media gurus, editors, etc. — have seen the counter-evidence and realize they were suckered by a quick look at less-than honest reporting. Now, rather than face the embarrassment of correcting their very public faux pas, they are hunkering down and hoping it will all just go away and be forgotten...”
Sounds plausible. But they also know that the absolute way to prove their original statements wrong is for KCBS to release the whole video; it would either show a missile or a jet. And they might not think it too likely that the original uncut video is still around, which, if indeed the footage was manipulated to create a story, is also plausible.
Freegards
Forget about the experts—if KCBS thought they had an awesome piece of footage, the thing to do is to release only a minute of edited and recycled film?
Freegards
I agree completely. But I guess they are in the business of generating publicity. And they succeeded. It’s a good lesson in how trustworthy our media is.
Check out # 50. I thought I had seen a retraction in Janes...
I will keep my eye out for it!
Yeah, I saw the awesome work you did dissecting the “raw” video on the other thread. That’s what I was trying to say when I said “recycled”. You said it much more betterly than me!
Freegards
Jane’s have retracted their analysis. After re-examination they go with an aircraft contrail.
Jane’s Rockets and Missiles have gone for the aircraft contrail. Their subscription website has the details. Jane’s has a very expensive subscription. Basically they dropped it like a stone after seeing the later footage and still images.
Yeah, you’re gonna be real popular: a sane guy on a government conspiracy thread.
I will keep looking, maybe someone with a subscription has posted it on a board somewhere.
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