Posted on 11/30/2010 2:24:09 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
The purpose of US courts is not the law, and certainly not the due process of law. In the US the courts inherit the simple common law purpose of settling disputes between people, rather than allow those disputes to go unresolved and thus provoke chaos and violence. Towards that purpose a Judge must take some cases under an extralegal basis if no other standing avails. To provide a hearing of facts and reach a judgment that settles a disturbance that is or could become a danger to the peace.
The Constitution recognizes that simple principle and need in the preamble with the following words: "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility"
Is that too hard a task, too hard for vain men who take pride in marshaling complex chains of stare decisis into perfected shackles of legalistic logic. The result of such prideful vanity ends up bloody when it wholly supplants the real reason for courts.
That being to Establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility. Legalistic "Due Process" is not JUSTICE. It wasn't in Dred Scott and it is not here. The legitimate compliant has been refused hearing! Again and again -- just like the wanderings of poor Dred Scott from court to court in seeking justice.
He was denied! The result was civil war.
Dredd Scott didn't have standing either.Syllabus A free negro of the African race, whose ancestors were brought to this country and sold as slaves, is not a "citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution of the United States.
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
60 U.S. 393
Scott v. Sandford
Argued: --- Decided:
... his ancestors were imported from Africa and sold as slaves, he is not a citizen of the State of Missouri according to the Constitution of the United States, and was not entitled to sue in that character in the Circuit Court.
Boehner may be afraid to find out the truth. I think that the American people deserve the truth, though.
Agreed. All indications are that he was born in Hawaii. Waste of time. This energy could be well spent on something else.
What else you going to do? From the Supreme Court to the Dog Catcher, every sonof a bitch that swore an oath to defend and protect theConstitution has joined obama in shitting on it and they are bound and determined to keep him in office.
And i haven’t got to the traitortus bastards that voted for him with the expections that he was going to support them for life. He isn’t,but, they are too stupid to realize that.
We vote for people who say that they will do this and that and when they are elected and get to DC they say hell with you and help the Democrats take what little freedoms we have left and cede our soverignty to the u.n.
I am game, but, what the hell is left to do?
They said vote, I voted what has changed?
There was no Civil War. Lincoln invaded the South. Loss of Southern money going up North was the reason. Dred scott had nothing to do with it.
The problem I have with the anti-birthers is that they’re not giving us anything tangible to work with on their side. They tell us, “Just give up on the BC; it’s not worth it; he loves the controversy; focus on his Marxism/Socialism/Americaphobia.”
Well, my FRiend, the problem with this argument is that you’re asking us to give up our legal right, and I daresay OBLIGATION, to verify the birth and citizenship of an American President. This did not happen, and almost across the board it’s acknowledged that he did not provide a traditional long form birth certificate.
It’s long past the point now, but at the time, someone should’ve spoken up and said, “A COLB is NOT a valid proof of birth/citizenship.”
This is a $10 piece of paper we’re talking about here, BLL! $10! He’s spending millions to keep lawyers on retainer to fight this, while he just needs to produce a God damned birth certificate! It’s a standard document that every single one of us has (somewhere) or there are records of it in local or state archives. He’s gone to extreme lengths to seal his records from the public eye. WHY?!
The anti-birthers want us to give up a tangible and legally backed fight for intangible concepts that we all know are true but no one in DC is willing to call him out on.
The Old Boys club is alive and well in DC, and we’re being ruled by despots. This young FReeper’s rope is growing shorter by the day with news of more usurpation of our liberty and abject failure on the part of this Regime to do anything even remotely positive for this country.
We’re all screwed, Obama’s taking us with him, and all we want, all we ask, is to see his certified long-form birth certificate. That’s it. A form that any one of us are required to produce for myriad purposes, that he’s supposed to produce to become eligible for President, and that he’s ardently kept under wraps since his administration started.
We’re being controlled by a Jew-hating billionaire and his globalist minions through an incompetent and utterly worthless piece of human detritus.
Boehner’s top priority should be creating jobs, not spend time
on searching for the original BC of president Zero.
In fact, I'm convinced that Obama won't show us his "real" birth certificate precisely because it baits people and distracts some conservatives from more worthwhile pursuits.
Seeing as how he has never shown his real birth certificate, that's pretty thin at best. The same day he's inaugurated, he places most of his life history off limits, and folks think "he's distracting some conservatives from more worthwhile pursuits". He refuses to show his real birth certificate and some folks think "he's distracting some conservatives from more worthwhile pursuits".
Folks that think that way better wake up and realize that should those documents ever see the light of day, he is a ruined man.
His approval numbers are in the toilet and he could gain instant popularity should he prove all the "birthers" wrong. Yet he doesn't. To lay claim that he is enjoying all of that is hogwash. He flees from the White House every opportunity he gets.
He's distracting some conservatives from more worthwhile pursuits? The man is refusing a life line to his presidency and no one wonders why. Once again, the Supreme Court has failed in their duty to put this matter to rest. Don't know about the rest of you, but to quote Hans Solo, "I have a bad feeling about this." Something that could be resolved in the simplest of ways is not resolved and we the great unwashed are not allowed to know why. The action of the Supreme Court today bodes evil days to come and soon.
Small as I am, I´m making this a campaign issue.
Obama could publicly admit he isn’t qualified and the system would still do nothing, on the premise that it would destabilize society.
IT ain’t over until WE THE PEOPLE SAY IT’S OVER.
Ever notice the media hardly ever reports when a eligibility case is filed, but only when one is dismissed?
Until you suggested it, I don’t think anyone else suggested that Speaker Boehner make investigating Obama’s qualifications for president his “top priority.” If you ever get a chance to look closely at how the House does business, it consists of numerous committees that investigate just about everything. One extra committee investigation won’t prevent anyone from “creating jobs.”
Constitutionality is precisely a legal question as the court has defined itself. Eligibility is a constitutional requirement.
No, impeachment is for high crimes or misdeamenors. If not constitutionally eligible he would simply stop being president until such time as he is eligible. In the case of the natural born citizenship issue, that would be never.
Consider all the reasons that have been submitted as to why the Civil War occurred (oh, and for the record, I don't think it was the Union who fired the first shot at Fort Sumter).
If you take away slavery, then all those other reasons would not be sufficient for the Civil War to have occurred.
Take all other reasons EXCEPT slavery? You still have the Civil War.
That's how strong feelings were over the issue, as indicated in the letters and writings of the time in the North and South.
In addition, he's doing everything in his power to turn this country into another Haiti.
You are right it is better to interpret the constitution not follow it.
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