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US cuts access to files after leak embarrassment
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 11/30/2010 | MATTHEW LEE

Posted on 11/30/2010 5:03:43 PM PST by Cementjungle

WASHINGTON – The State Department severed its computer files from the government's classified network, officials said Tuesday, as U.S. and world leaders tried to clean up from the embarrassing leak that spilled America's sensitive documents onto screens around the globe.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assange; barry0bungle; bhostatedept; soshillary; spain4only75000day; victorym0sque; wagyabutt4just100lb; wahyabutt4just100lb; wikileaks
A little slow to react, but I guess the bad press finally forced Obama to do something (or at least appear to be doing something)
1 posted on 11/30/2010 5:03:47 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I find it fascinating they didn’t give a snot about the leaks until they started coming from the State Department.


2 posted on 11/30/2010 5:07:14 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cementjungle

I suppose it’s all classified, but does anyone know when this idiocy got started? It was a huge violation of the “need to know” principle. Classified Documents 101 should be enough to tell anyone not to do put every secret diplomatic file in the world into a system where any corporal with a security clearance could access all of it, and where any hacker could probably download it, too.

What on earth were they thinking?


3 posted on 11/30/2010 5:07:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Cementjungle
This is called closing the barn door after the horses have escaped. It does help focus the attention on where the primary responsibility—the the blame—lies for the release of the secrets, and whatever damage that may have caused.
4 posted on 11/30/2010 5:07:27 PM PST by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: Cicero

It made their pathetic bureaucratic lives easier.


5 posted on 11/30/2010 5:08:33 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I find it fascinating they didn’t give a snot about the leaks until they started coming from the State Department.

Yep. Interesting how no one (in the media) seems to want to point that out either.

6 posted on 11/30/2010 5:09:07 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cicero
What on earth were they thinking?

ABout two decades ago, our leadership just quit thinking about anything but their next raise.

7 posted on 11/30/2010 5:10:21 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Cementjungle

It’s funny nothing this drastic ever occurred when we weren’t so “sensitive” and politically correct and enforced our laws.


8 posted on 11/30/2010 5:12:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Sittin' in da back of da bus since January 2009.)
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To: Cementjungle

They waited all this time??????


9 posted on 11/30/2010 5:14:19 PM PST by Carley (IT'S THREAT ANALYSIS, NOT RACIAL PROFILING)
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To: Cicero

After 9/11, there was this big push to make it easier for different departments and agencies of the government to share information. The thought was that 9/11 could have been stopped with easier communication between the various agencies.

The problem with this is when you break down those communication walls, the information becomes more vulnerable to being intercepted.


10 posted on 11/30/2010 5:14:48 PM PST by jerry557
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To: Cicero

>> What on earth were they thinking?

Maybe they *weren’t* thinking.

If I was appointed King one of the first things I would do is execute a massive and ruthless purge of the State Dept.

Now, don’t read too much into that word, “execute”.

...

On second thought, yeah, go ahead and take “execute” literally. :-)


11 posted on 11/30/2010 5:15:14 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Cementjungle

I guess they convened the committee on barn doors.


12 posted on 11/30/2010 5:16:00 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: Cementjungle
So now it's just an "embarassment"?

These people are PATHETIC.

13 posted on 11/30/2010 5:19:15 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Cementjungle

I’m guessing that Obama didn’t bother warning Hillary, or the State Department BEFORE it was all published — it’s not like the WH wasn’t given the opportunity to ask them NOT to publish these files months ago.


14 posted on 11/30/2010 5:20:09 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Cementjungle

Remember when the climate gate files were released? Everyone loved that. And we can thank it for putting the brakes on that scam. Well this is no different in many ways. And everyone acts like the difference is night and day. For 90% of the information it is good that it is exposed.


15 posted on 11/30/2010 5:20:38 PM PST by Revel
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To: jerry557

Good point, but managed communication should have been the goal, and not a contentious divide that left Country more vulnerable than necessary.


16 posted on 11/30/2010 5:21:34 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Revel

>> For 90% of the information it is good that it is exposed.

It may be heretical, but I’m coming around to that point of view myself.


17 posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:34 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Cementjungle

Oh no! The horses have all run out of the barn! Quick! Close the doors!


18 posted on 11/30/2010 5:26:42 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: Cementjungle

Playing Devil’s Advocate here, but is this the catalyst to clamp down on all gumment info. Keep the wheels behind locked doors......


19 posted on 11/30/2010 5:43:02 PM PST by Shady (The real work is just beginning!)
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To: Cementjungle

Playing Devil’s Advocate here, but is this the catalyst to clamp down on all gumment info. Keep the wheels behind locked doors......


20 posted on 11/30/2010 5:44:02 PM PST by Shady (The real work is just beginning!)
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To: Cementjungle

US Government and Intelligence - Go Figure that one out is like Molasses moving in January.

If you want an intelligent conversation - do not seek out anyone that works for the government, because on the whole the government has no intelligence.

With the current administration their about as smart as a box of rocks, and the only movement the box has it is moving down a hill.

The media said that Obama was the most intelligent person to ever occupy the White House. The media was lying


21 posted on 11/30/2010 5:45:26 PM PST by hondact200 ( Obama is Nuckin Futs!!! Obama has the Lead Touch unlike the Midas Touch of Gold)
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To: Revel

I’ve refused to look at any of it yet; some misguided sense of not wanting to be complicit perhaps. Probably not a smart strategery . . .


22 posted on 11/30/2010 5:46:02 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Cyber Liberty
I find it fascinating they didn’t give a snot about the leaks until they started coming from the State Department.

Good point!
Military and intel leaks that get our people killed -- they don't care.

Diplomatic leaks about Hillary's department and Obama's foreign policy -- "Katie, bar the door!"

23 posted on 11/30/2010 5:48:33 PM PST by Aroostook25
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To: Cementjungle

OKAY! It's empty. Close 'em up.

24 posted on 11/30/2010 5:50:52 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Cementjungle

25 posted on 11/30/2010 5:56:58 PM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: Cementjungle

The leaks got out because somebody very high in the government wanted them out.

Obviously by now what they wanted to get out has gotten out.


26 posted on 11/30/2010 5:58:23 PM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: dfwgator

Has anyone come across the name of a single liberal these leaks have hurt? Just one?


27 posted on 11/30/2010 6:03:34 PM PST by swpa_mom
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To: Cementjungle

The 0bama administration didn’t give a crap when the leaked files were endangering troops. But they leapt into action when the leaks were embarrassing to them.


28 posted on 11/30/2010 6:07:09 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Third time’s the charm I guess. Thanks Cementjungle.


29 posted on 11/30/2010 6:07:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Cementjungle

Some stuff shouldn’t remain secret - especially in the State Department. Breckinridge Long comes to mind.


30 posted on 11/30/2010 6:17:46 PM PST by Tuxedo (Up against the wall)
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To: Cicero

Healthcare is their forte’.


31 posted on 11/30/2010 6:44:16 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Cementjungle

Who was on the forefront of stamping out Able Danger?


32 posted on 11/30/2010 7:02:29 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: Cementjungle

it was a least July when I first heard about these leaks.... sounds like the usual response time for the obamanation’s leadership/crisis management(??duh??) style


33 posted on 11/30/2010 7:30:34 PM PST by bareford101 (For me, there is no difference in a tolerant, open mind and a cess pool. Both are open to filth.)
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To: jerry557

>After 9/11, there was this big push to make it easier for different departments and agencies of the government to share information.

And you know what happened to that “big push”? Jack Shit.

>The thought was that 9/11 could have been stopped with easier communication between the various agencies.

The truth is it probably would have.

>The problem with this is when you break down those communication walls, the information becomes more vulnerable to being intercepted.

But the communication walls WEREN’T broken down. If anything they were built higher and more maze-like. Why?
Well, if your agency is obviously doing the same intel work some other agency is, then when budget-cuts comes around you have to justify your agency’s funding better than the other group.

But by not sharing information, or by poor organization of it {ie hiding in plain sight}, you have less chance of being called on it. In fact, you could say “refer to my boss’s report #XX71D.b” and fill your justification with such refs.


34 posted on 11/30/2010 7:31:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Nervous Tick

*nod* — I think you might like what I would do were I king.


35 posted on 11/30/2010 8:28:10 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Revel
I agree.

That Wikileaks guy is starting to make me like him, the bastard.

36 posted on 11/30/2010 8:49:06 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Revel

I agree. BTW is there a single-file download, like a .zip or .rar, of the leak?


37 posted on 11/30/2010 9:03:40 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Cementjungle

People should remember that the term “computer security” is an oxymoron. There really is no such thing as security when you start to network computers, especially classified computers. SIPRNET was a dumb idea from the start and this just proves it. You have hundreds of thousands of people that have access to this network, what’s the chances that this has not been the first time someone has done a large data dump and shipped it off to some foreign country? It’s gotten so bad that now amateurs are getting in on the act!


38 posted on 11/30/2010 9:20:18 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Little Pig

I really don’t know how to get it. I imagine Google would be a good place to look. Many forums will probably have links by people commenting if nothing else. It is far too much for me to go through. I figure the important stuff will come out in the news. I do know that it is being released in may parts because I have read that.

I also know that there is a huge file out on the net from wikileaks that is encrypted. It is labeled “Security” or something like that. He said that if they came after him then he would release the key and everything that is in the file will be exposed. I am not sure that he will ever get the chance to release the key or if any 3rd party would be brave enough to do so. I also have no idea what is in the file.


39 posted on 11/30/2010 9:38:00 PM PST by Revel
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To: LibertyRocks

It looks like Obama is doing some pre-2012 election work to damage Hillary’s prospects to run in 2012.


40 posted on 12/01/2010 12:04:04 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: LibertyRocks

Is this Obama’s pay back/revenge ? to the Clinton’s ?


41 posted on 12/01/2010 12:05:29 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

There’s a history of massive leaks in our govt.

Walker gave the key codes and information on our encryption systems to the Russians. They had the flight plans for the B52s during Vietnam which helped them have SAMs in place.

Hansen likewise gave massive amounts of information to the Russians.

Both of these guys cost BILLIONS in damage and quite a few deaths were directly attributed to them.

This isn’t different in scale but is far more public of a failure. How one low level private managed to get all this information is mind boggling.


42 posted on 12/01/2010 3:24:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jerry557

The information wasn’t intercepted. It was copied off a govt computer and carried out on a USB key and CD ROM.

Sharing wasn’t the problem. An utter lack of controls over who had access to the information is the problem.


43 posted on 12/01/2010 3:26:19 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cementjungle; kristinn; Clinton's a liar; paltz; Trueblackman; icwhatudo; melancholy; AliVeritas; ..

Can’t access WikiLoozers from work, or my computer gets scrubbed (and I get canned, for all I know).


44 posted on 12/02/2010 2:49:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Yes, Heaven forbid that everybody should know how the rest of the Middle East feels about Iran. From what I've heard, these leaks might be more embarrassing for other countries than they are for the U.S..

Official gov't line is the same as Officer Barbrady's: Nothing to see here, move along!

45 posted on 12/02/2010 2:52:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Can’t access WikiLoozers from work, or my computer gets scrubbed (and I get canned, for all I know).

It's still up, and they're still adding more leaked cables as we speak.

46 posted on 12/02/2010 2:53:45 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cyber Liberty; Cementjungle

One of my co-workers thinks that the Banksters are responsible for the current clampdown on Wikiloozers, as well as the rape allegations against Assange, because they’re next in line to be exposed.


47 posted on 12/02/2010 2:54:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
One of my co-workers thinks that the Banksters are responsible for the current clampdown on Wikiloozers, as well as the rape allegations against Assange, because they’re next in line to be exposed.

Don't know.. I'm pretty certain any decision to move on this had to involve the White House. So far the site's still operating, so whatever actions are supposedly being taken aren't all that speedy.

48 posted on 12/02/2010 2:58:08 PM PST by Cementjungle
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