Posted on 12/01/2010 5:33:43 PM PST by Cheerio
The internet giant took action after coming under pressure from right-wingers in the US to stop hosting the site, which this week published tens of thousands of confidential diplomatic e-mails.
(Excerpt) Read more at metro.co.uk ...
I only found out today that Amazon’s property was allegedly hosting the material.
I’m still avoiding Amazon for that pedophile crap it was peddling.
Amazon has lost a buyer here also. I buy/bought all my books there, and I buy a lot of books.
Unfortunately, wikileaks is not down. He’s supposed to be some real hot hacker, you’d think other hackers would like to knock him down and take the title!
Not all people on our side agrees that WikiLeaks is bad. There are other conservative forums where there are lots of pro-WikiLeaks threads.
Amazon Who?
Pass that along to folks on "other Conservative boards".
While the release shows how weak our current president is, I for one am not upset that the vast majority of these documents were leak. Most never should have been classified in the first place. You do realize that over 2,000,000 people had access to these files? They were the worst secret, secret documents ever created.
The government classifies over 8 million documents a year. 7,990,000 documents most likely shouldn’t have been. It is good to know with a moral certitude that the President knew Iran was making a nuclear weapon, about the arms shipments to Hezbollah, Chinese co-operation with North Korea, Saudis financing Al Qaeda, Chinese Cyber Attacks, weapon shipments from Iran, etc... etc...
Our government’s ineptitude is as bad as we suspected and worse. Now as far as Wikileaks is concerned I want them destroyed, owner jailed or killed and punished to the full extent of the law for the danger he put our operatives in. However, I would bet that only a few hundred out of the hundreds of thousands of documents were truly harmful other that exposing the lies of our government. Most of these documents were classified secret to provide wiggle room to lie to the public about bad (weak/gutless) policy decisions.
Doesn't matter WHO classified the documents or why ~ they were classified.
Espionage is espionage.
We must punish espionage because there are OTHER documents that should be classified.
Did you ever read through 250,000 "documents"?
Thought not. Once I had to read through several thousand involving AARP and a major postage deficiency worth millions of bucks. In the end they lost ~ ONE SINGLE DOCUMENT established the basis for their loss (and it happened to be their bylaws).
One of the reasons their lawyers DUMPED so many documents on us was to district any analyst from going straight to the nut-cutting.
YOU may not think all those 250,000 documents needed classified, but there's something in there that did.
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”
-George Orwell
WikiLeaks didnt steal this information. It was given to them. If someone gave a confidential document to the New York Times and they publish it, is the New York Times guilty of treason? No, they are not. Otherwise they would have been prosecuted for putting up those Abu Ghraib pictures.
It is not Wikileaks’s job to protect that data. It was the US Government’s job, and they failed. Blaming WikiLeaks is shooting the messenger. We live in an information age. You really think stopping WikiLeaks would stop this data from coming out? You are dreaming!
He turned himself and his friends into TARGET PEOPLE.
The New York Times can hide behind the free press doctrine ~ Assange can't. He's doing this abroad. He's a foreigner. He can be shot on sight.
Doesn't mean Woodrow Wilson would have been all that happy with the NYT. He'd stuffed them into prison pending the end of the war ~ like he did many other people. Abe Lincoln would have stuffed them into a prison subject to serious flooding by hurricanes ~ where they could drown. George Washington had a man executed for what amounted to filing a complaint about conditions at Valley Forge.
You really gotta' keep straight what is going on here. Assange is a foreigner. He's commiting espionage against the United States. He, his friends, and his supporters, even in this country, MUST be punished.
Regarding “telling the truth”, Assange is a living lie.
...and NYT heads still should roll for their treasonous Abu Ghraib reporting during a time of war.
The Espionage Act was passed in 1917. Not only is it out of date (no internet in 1917). But the Supreme Court turned it into Swiss cheese with all the pro-first amendment rulings in the 20th century.
Now you could potentially charge the person who leaked the info (believed to be Bradley Manning) to Assange. But Assange himself may not have violated any law currently on our books.
And even charging Manning won’t be easy. You potentially get him on Espionage. But according to the US Constitution, you must have two witnesses to charge someone with Treason. As of right now we only have potentially one witness.
It’s not going to be easy to charge anyone in this situation. That’s why the Justice Department is dragging their feet.
You get busy fixing the Espionage Act if you want in the meantime this guy Assange is simply fair game.
The sign up is done online with a credit card, much like you order merchandise. I don't think any 'eyes' are watching the transaction as it unfolds. There is really too much information being processed to make split second decisions.
When they became aware of the controversy they shut it down
What do you think about wikileak's seeking out Amazon's cloud services to help with their hacker defense?
I wonder if what the Jester hit them with Monday made them realize what they currently had couldn't be defended .
I also wonder if by establishing a data presence in the US they made themselves more accessible to US LE.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on that if you wished to share.
Back in the beginning of the Internet I found my primary files on a server track NEXT to a Taliban track.
This was with Erol's Internet ~ and they were a really big attractor for American and foreign Moslems because the guy who "owned" it was a Turkish Moslem.
These systems were regularly backed up as Erol's added customers, or new equipment was installed, but due to the way files were structured for membership I was always right next to the Taliban guys.
Then 9/11 happened.
All at once I wasn't next to the Taliban, but I couldn't get on the net either.
SOLUTION ~ call the service desk. Took only a sec and I was back on line.
The lesson is they may pull the pak you're on but if you know the service desk number you can get reinstated.
Assange won't.
Doesn’t matter WHO classified the documents or why ~ they were classified.
Your kidding right? You have a lot more faith in government than I do.
And remember over 2,000,000 people had access to this information, do you honestly believe there were real secrets buried in this information. Yea, I know what the press said, but it defies logic to think that out of the 2,000,000 people viewing the documents none were spies. The vast majority of this information was classified so government officials could lie to the American public with impunity. Not because the documents should be secret.
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