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Mullen fires back at McCain’s ‘don’t ask’ repeal criticism
AP via Yahoo News ^ | Dec 2, 2010 | By Liz Goodwin

Posted on 12/02/2010 12:52:46 PM PST by US Navy Vet

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To: US Navy Vet

For once, McCain gets it right. The Joint Chiefs don’t command jack squat and they are not part of the National Command Authority which runs from the President, through the SECDEF, to the combatant and specified commands, i.e. EUCOM, CENTCOM, PACOM, TRANSCOM, SOCOM, and others.


41 posted on 12/02/2010 2:19:27 PM PST by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: IrishCatholic
Still going through it, but the reporting of the surveys is either incompetence and laziness by the press or outright corruption.

Oh, it's outright corruption. Those animals will do anything for their Democrat party and its base constituencies. Anyway, thanks for the info about the survey. Please update the thread and ping me when you complete your analysis. ...Should be interesting.

42 posted on 12/02/2010 2:23:56 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Never on my watch

Even the heads of the military are ready to “sell out”.
I always believed there is a right and a wrong. It seems many people are not willing to stand up for what is right.


43 posted on 12/02/2010 2:39:13 PM PST by FreedBird
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To: RexBeach

It’s not just you, and he IS a putz!


44 posted on 12/02/2010 2:45:10 PM PST by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: gov_bean_ counter
As you know the Joint Chiefs are advisory and as such they would not have to deal with whatever fallout occurs as a result of eliminating DADT.

The service chiefs (CSA, CNO, CSAF, & the Commandant) are a part of the Joint Chiefs (or JCS). They most definitely will deal with the fallout.

45 posted on 12/02/2010 2:53:10 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Mullen has never seen combat action. McCain was a POW in Nam, plus he has sons in the military. I believe one is in the Marine Corps. McCain appears willing to go to the mat on this one. Thank you Senator.


46 posted on 12/02/2010 3:04:45 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: US Navy Vet
Gates in 1967 he was commissioned a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and served as an intelligence officer at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri.

Yes he served but he was definitely NOT a war fighter

47 posted on 12/02/2010 3:05:47 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ScottinVA

Apparently Mullen is the highest ranking rear admiral in Navy history.


48 posted on 12/02/2010 3:06:05 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Apparently Mullen is the highest ranking rear admiral in Navy history.

</punch line drum roll>

49 posted on 12/02/2010 3:08:58 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
Stand corrected, thank you.

I was thinking specifically about the Chairman and should have done a little more homework and not spoken so broadly.

50 posted on 12/02/2010 3:09:29 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I can see 2012 from my cubicle...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Mullen needs to stand down, put in his retirement papers, and fade away. He's an embarrassment as head of JCS — and perfect for Commandante Zer0.
51 posted on 12/02/2010 3:12:53 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: US Navy Vet

I just fired off an e-mail to McCain’s Senate website encouraging him to keep up the fight on this issue. For anybody that want’s to do same, here’s the address...

http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm


52 posted on 12/02/2010 3:48:20 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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To: IrishCatholic

Thanks for your work on this. As I have posted before, I took the survey, and it was obviously slanted to generate a benign response. Only one area for text entry, and I gave them an earfull, although I imagine I’ll be relegated to a certain “demographic.”

Also, as I’ve mentioned before, the survey was coded with a specific number attached to my name, so I didn’t have high confidence that it was truly confidential. So now I hear that there was only a 28% response, and Mullen and Gates are claiming that a majority of the military is for the repeal of DADT? These are out and out lies! Where is the press on this fraud?

I watched some of the briefing on CSPAN. Adm Mullen is claiming he has battle experience working alongside gay personnel, and he “knows in his soul” the repeal is the right thing to do. Whatever happened to logic and knowing something in your brain, especially at his level?

Also, there were a lot of questions regarding living quarters, showers, etc, but not much in the way of concrete answers. My favorite moment was when the DoD lawyer on the panel intimated that gay soldiers would have the right to designate their chosen partners, who would receive full military spousal benefits. How the hell would that work, without the legal binding of a legal marriage ceremony? Would everyone have the right to have a designated partner who would recieve health benefits, military housing, travel benefits overseas, etc? How would those costs affect operations? Obviously this is not a well thought out and planned transformation, just a weak willed go-along-to-get-along response by political officers who don’t really give a damn about the military. Whatever happened to RESIGNING if you profoundly disagree with a decision? Maybe if all the senior folks who really didn’t believe in this change resigned together something good would come of it. Most of them can retire with full benefits anyway.

Anyway, we’ve all been told that if we don’t like it, too bad, we can find another job. So much for appreciation for the small segment of our society which has actually sacrificed during this long period of war while life went along as usual for everyone else.


53 posted on 12/02/2010 4:58:39 PM PST by binreadin
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To: binreadin
Thank you for your service. I am compiling the ‘In between the lines’ part of the first report, but there are a lot of actual survey responses listed in the second report (Over 200+pages on the second part.)

None of the quotes sounds supportive, although the “interpretation” by the report writers is all editorial opinion. When I have all of the report read thoroughly I'll post a critique of the report here and ping you.

Thank you for your service again. I didn't know about the number either.

54 posted on 12/02/2010 5:44:51 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: binreadin

If you are still interested in the topic, I wrote a long piece on it:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638468/posts


55 posted on 12/06/2010 5:46:03 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Lancey Howard

If you are still interested in the topic I wrote a 4 part critique of the press by examining the report:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2638468/posts


56 posted on 12/06/2010 5:47:34 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: IrishCatholic

Thanks!
I will check it out.


57 posted on 12/06/2010 7:55:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pissant

There are just a few lynchpins in the leftist agenda, and the removal of the ban on openly “gay” service members was one of them. Many other agenda items flowed from that one policy change. That’s why the newly leftist House, Senate and White House went after THIS instead of imposing an ENDA or repealing the Defense of Marriage Act during the 2 years they had complete power.

All of those other goals would flow from this.


58 posted on 01/18/2019 7:02:50 AM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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