Posted on 12/02/2010 1:03:04 PM PST by Tea Party Reveler
"HORRIBLE HOLLY GRAF" FIGHTS TO KEEP STRIPES DOESN'T WANT REDUCTION IN RANK DESPITE MOUNTAIN OF COMPLAINTS FROM COWPENS CREW ASKED IF THEY'D EVER WORK FOR HER AGAIN, ALL BUT CHAPLAIN, VOWED TO "RETIRE" OR "RESIGN," INSTEAD - NO "RING-KNOCKERS" AMONG THREE ADMIRALS ON THE BOARD A BLOW TO GRAF'S CHANCES - NAVY YARD HEARING CONTINUES TODAY
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Of all people, Holly Graf's defense team Wednesday put on the witness stand Rear Admiral Margaret Kibben, chaplain of the Marine Corps.
The very nice lady member of the cloth allowed as to how "impressed" she was with what many call the most hated woman in the Navy. "I have never met anyone so dedicated to Navy service as Capt. Graf," the chaplain testified.
If the good chaplain had spent time on the bridge of any Navy ship Graf served on, she might have gotten another impression. Of how filthy a mouth Graf has: "mother- - - - - - this, and mother - - - - - - that," the screaming shrew spat out. Of course a captain has to use profanity now and then to get his/her point across, but putting a master chief in the corner on "time out" and throwing hard objects at the heads of subordinates, denotes an unstable and even dangerous person. Graf's track record of physically attacking men, going back to her days as skipper of the destroyer Winston Churchill, doesn't say much for the Navy brass who coddled and protected the Naval Academy grad from the time she left Annapolis.
We'd like to offer up another female who really knows "Horrible Holly," and dared to speak out about her.
"BEST THING FOR EVERYONE IF GRAF LEFT THE NAVY . . . THE SOONER, THE BETTER."
Retired LCDR Mary Kirby wanted to "go on the record" with MilitaryCorruption.com about her ordeal with Graf. "I'm sorry Holly was not stopped a long time ago," she said. Kirby, a SWO and former enlisted sailor, minced no words when describing how Graf "clawed and climbed over a large pile of bodies to get to the top."
"She was very arrogant and believed her promotions and career were owed to her because of who she was," the officer said. Kirby suggested the best thing for everyone would be if Graf left the Navy, "the sooner, the better."
But perhaps the most scathing description of the relieved-of-command martinet came from a woman who served on ship with Holly when both officers were new lieutenants.
"HER MENTAL ILLNESS EVIDENT . . . MAY SHE ROT IN HELL FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE"
"It didn't take long being with her to see she was unstable," the former officer, who asked to remain anonymous, recalled. "I felt compelled to take the matter to the XO, and he to the captain. Unfortunately, nothing happened, and word got back to her what I'd done. That was when she went off on me. That whacko made my life miserable.
"Her mental illness was very evident to me during the time we were room-mates aboard ship. But Holly was the fair-haired girl and Naval Academy graduate who was destined for great things, whether she deserved them or not. The Navy saw to that. Shame on all her superior officers for writing her up in glowing fitness reports. That enabled Graf to brutalize other people. She seemed to enjoy inflicting punishment on people below her rank.
"MAY SHE ROT IN HELL for all the pain and suffering she has inflicted on others. The Navy needs to put her in jail for the crimes she committed all these years," the female former officer said.
Voyage of the Sea Witch.
The Sea Hag and her Goons.
The Navy needs to cut their losses. Male skippers get canned for far less. I got to hand it to the Navy-—they seem to do a better job of disciplining their troops then the Air Force does.
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Why does this keep getting posted?
In any case, he had a term for power-tripping females with chips on their shoulders which was, "a bitch with a hard on." It seems Captain Graf could be the archetype.
This is a new article. It was written today and has never been posted. Does that answer your question or do you really mean “why do people still follow this story”?
It’s called “we don’t like political correctness and special rules for special people”!
Many times, a crew of a Navy ship can take care of an Officer they don’t like. I’ve seen it happen on the ship I was on. The Officer never knew who to blame. He was the son of an Admiral and thought his crap didn’t stink and he actually believed he knew more, as a boot Ensign, than the crew. It was a tough education, most likely tougher than the academy. I hope he learned something.
Sorry, my mistake.
It had the same ALL CAPS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS look !!!!!! and WORDAGE !!!! as the PREVIOUS ONE !!!!!!
Really?
I mean it.
Really?
The BEST officers and best captain I ever knew was/were VERY demanding, but very level headed and earned respect, but I never heard one word of profanity out of his mouth (not even the standard, military-issued adjective beginning with "F...")
Another captain I had was a true-blue curse word sailor. Everyone HATED the man. The respected the rank, but hated the man.
An academy grad, hated by his fellow "scrambled egg" grads...
¨Ah, but the strawberries... That´s where I had them....¨
Interesting - IME (late 70s), if you wanted IN, you got it as long as you checked the right blocks. I know I had no trouble getting FA as a first choice with a free trip to Europe thrown in as a bonus.
I think your friend's description of power-tripping females is right on target.
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I was commissioned in ‘91; my friend in ‘89. All the hard chargers wanted RA or active duty combat arms, and they became fairly competitive.
Triple layers of protection, A Navy aristocracy family, a Annapolis graduate and female.
In today’s politically correct Navy, that kept her safely insulated.
But it was the family connections that really came through for her. Just being a ring-knocker will not cover total incompetence because I know of at least one female 03 who was given the choice of resigning voluntarily or being boarded out in 1985 or so. She left and went into law enforcement instead.
She was not even that bad of an officer, just “raised” wrong. This gal I’m thinking of had the misfortune of being assigned TO the academy as staff immediately after graduating FROM the academy, and was retained for a second tour there, making it a full 10 years (and O3) before she hit the fleet — where she simply could not cope.
“Many times, a crew of a Navy ship can take care of an Officer they don’t like.”
In the sailing era, before electricity, it was *dark* aboard a ship after sundown. There might be a glim to light the compass card, and maybe a stern lantern lit to mark the ship’s position.
A cure for an obnoxious officer in those days was to take a round shot from one of the quarterdeck guns, and — from a dark spot on the quarterdeck — roll it on the deck at the officer’s ankles (call it bowling for officers). If it connected, a four to twelve-poiund shot would break the officer’s ankle — severly curtailing mobility on a vessels where everything was reached by ladders.
An officer could not complain about being a target (unless he caught the miscreant), because being the target of rolled shot meant he was a bad officer. He just had to stay alert, and hope he caught the sound of the ball rolling.
If you got caught, you were in real trouble, but like I said — back then a ship at night was really dark, and if an officer were worthy of getting shot rolled at him the rest of the crew could be remarkably unobservant.
Shame some traditions died, but it doesn’t really work too well once solid round-shot disappears.
You've been at FR for less than a month and you're calling Lorianne a liberal? Get back under the bridge.
That's really lame.
The poster indicated that this was a new article as of today. In case you don't recognize it, that's a "material comment".
It's not a "nebulous observation" to ask why someone has complained about a new article being posted on a long-running story.
Interesting history of the sea. I will say that I have been at sea when it was so dark that you couldn’t see your hand if placed on your nose. The sea can be a very daunting place if one is not careful. But....the crew of a ship takes on that ship as more a part of his/her family. They will, normally, do whatever it takes to protect her.
I remember when my ship was decommissioned and sunk. I think that you could see more tears of her crew than you would see at a funeral. An officer that completely turns against a ships crew, turns against the ship itself because the ship and crew are one. The officer should be removed at any cost.
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