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Obesity Surgery May Become Option for Many More
NY Times ^ | December 1, 2010 | ANDREW POLLACK

Posted on 12/02/2010 10:04:56 PM PST by neverdem

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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
"Yes, but you were not in and out of consciousness and in extreme pain.

Actually, I was. Which is my point. Even simple surgeries can "go bad". Sometimes through physician incompetence, but sometimes just due to happenstance. I don't know which of those was true in my case, but the doc said that if I hadn't come in when I did, I could have died. The "diagnosis and treatment" of the first ER physician exacerbated the problem badly, but that didn't cause the initial blockage.

61 posted on 12/04/2010 4:24:52 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: hoyt-clagwell
"Stop eating and your metabolism shuts down. That is why you hear it’s best to eat as soon as you get up. As long as you are on a calorie deficit every day it does not matter when you eat. As a matter of fact, bodybuilders cutting for a contest will get up in the middle of the night several times and eat some small meals to keep their metabolism going 24/7.

I suggest you look up "intermittent fasting", a somewhat newer school of thought in the bodybuilding community. Many of the above are proving to be "old wives tales". A number of physician/bodybuilders have blogs on it.

I don't lift, but I am interested in IF from the weight loss and "life extension" perspective. And I am finding that the IF position is correct.

My exercise routine is "heavyhands" (developed by a physician), as I need the aerobic and heart-strengthening it provides. Half an hour with 9-lb weights while "stepping" on a no-rails step machine. In that time I "move" 45,000 pounds of weight, and that is "just" the arm part...the leg exercise is added. GREAT total-body general conditioning, toning, and aerobic benefits with no joint stress at all. I hope to move up to 10 pounds next month, which will give me 52,000 pounds of "mass moved" per half hour session.

62 posted on 12/04/2010 5:47:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: jonrick46
The mechanism that controls our appetite is located in the stomach.

What's not commonly known is we have a second brain in our stomach packed with neurons. It's why we get butterflies before a performance and why we sometimes go with our gut feeling. In a developing baby, the brain and stomach come from the same clump of tissue.

63 posted on 12/04/2010 7:10:40 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Wonder Warthog
I suggest you look up "intermittent fasting", a somewhat newer school of thought in the bodybuilding community. Many of the above are proving to be "old wives tales". A number of physician/bodybuilders have blogs on it.

Hey, I do intermittent fasting between meals :).

The system I wrote about is not "old wives tales" it has been proven for decades and works for everyone who do it correctly.

There are some bodybuilders who love IF but there have also been many people who say it totally wrecked them, raised their cortisol levels out of sight, they lost strength, lost lean body mass in the long term etc. It is a system that works for some but has been disastrous for others. There are blogs of people on bb.com who really wanted to see if it worked and went in unbiased and it set them back.

The system I wrote about works.

64 posted on 12/04/2010 7:29:39 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: Wonder Warthog
My exercise routine is "heavyhands" (developed by a physician), as I need the aerobic and heart-strengthening it provides. Half an hour with 9-lb weights while "stepping" on a no-rails step machine. In that time I "move" 45,000 pounds of weight, and that is "just" the arm part...the leg exercise is added. GREAT total-body general conditioning, toning, and aerobic benefits with no joint stress at all. I hope to move up to 10 pounds next month, which will give me 52,000 pounds of "mass moved" per half hour session.

I had skinny, undefined arms so I set about doing a lifting program that would give me a cross between Brad Pitt in "Troy" and "Fight Club". I have never wanted to get the meathead bodybuilder look.

I'm 48 and have abs for the first time in my life. I went form 255 to 195 and know I am knocking on 190.

Your system sounds somewhat like P90X.

65 posted on 12/04/2010 7:38:25 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: hoyt-clagwell

Heavyhands. Interview by Clarence Bass:

http://www.cbass.com/SchwartzInterview.htm

Be sure to notice the photo of Dr. Schwartz at age 70.


66 posted on 12/04/2010 8:24:10 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: hoyt-clagwell
"The system I wrote about is not "old wives tales" it has been proven for decades and works for everyone who do it correctly."

Well, my concern is weight loss (or more specifically fat loss), and "intermittent fasting" plus heavyhands seems to be doing that. I've dropped about 15 pounds in about the last 2.5 months, and given the differences in body composition, I am sure that has been virtually all fat.

I did "Weight Watchers" and "did" lose weight, but didn't maintain long-term. And all the tracking of "exchanges" about drove me crazy. Add to that being hungry all the time.

Using IF (I fast from 8PM-4PM MWF, eat from 4PM-8PM on MWF, and then eat normally TThSS), I'm not hungry at all. My energy is up, and my mental clarity is SIGNIFICANTLY improved.

The beauty of IF is its simplicity and "low overhead". My schedule simply won't allow six meals a day plus all the "overhead" of preparing and tracking all that stuff.

67 posted on 12/04/2010 8:33:21 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

I’m glad IF is working for you. Keep it up. I get severe headaches it I don’t eat on a regular basis or go without food for prolonged periods.

I don’t really eat 5-6 “meals” per day but a more exact term would be is that I graze. Say for lunch I’ll eat an entree and then eat one side an hour later and another side another hour.

I also usually do a lot of my cooking on either Saturday or Sunday for the rest of the week.

A great site to log onto is fitday.com It’s great for keeping track of your daily meals. Very simple to use and what happens is you end up eating much of the same meals and it is easier to track. I keep track of all my meals each day and it takes 10 minutes at most.

I’ve also become a quasi vegetarian. I still eat lean red meat or chicken/fish every rare often (Thanksgiving, friends pig roast, company dinners etc). I was lucky to team up with a guy who works out in my gym who gave me the basics...he really helped me out.

I’m not anti-meat it’s just that I can actually say I feel my very best being a vegetarian but the con’s are it’s expensive and time consuming(preparing meals). Palatable dished take time to prepare and most regular food stores don’t have a very good selection of foods. I usually end up traveling to a good produce store that is 25 miles away once every 10-12 days. Yes it is a lot easier to just throw some burgs or steaks on the grill.

I also take a milk based whey protein and will eat eggs on occasion.

Good job and good luck on your continued weight loss.


68 posted on 12/04/2010 10:37:51 AM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew)
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To: Wonder Warthog

He deserved the whacking he got. He pissed me off and almost killed me


69 posted on 12/04/2010 5:35:49 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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