Skip to comments.BREAKING: Obama got all Cís and Dís in college and law school
Posted on 12/03/2010 5:14:08 AM PST by econjackEdited on 12/03/2010 11:44:38 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Heres a piece from Jennifer Rubin calling Obama out on the ignoramus that he is. Rubin hits hard with:
He displays contempt for Americans who dont agree with his flawed policies, in effect instructing them to shut up. But his arrogance is both unwise (these people vote!) and undeserved.
Obama was a C or D student in college who was passed and promoted aggressively because he was a smiling, biracial, man with a weird name who more likely than not played up on his Muslim upbringing in Indonesia in all of his college admissions essays and other course work. Thats the sort of thing Columbia and Harvard JUST LOVE so we cant imagine he ever hid any of that. Its what made him interesting to the academic elite this little brown boy raised in the jungles of the Pacific, mentored by Frank Marshall, with that Kenyan last name.
They just ate that stuff up.
Theres a reason Obama wont release those transcripts or any of the other dozens of documents he spends millions of dollars concealing. Historians will eventually find them all, and one day in the future when all of us are long dead future Americans will have a better, if not ever fully accurate, picture of who the 44th President of the United States was.
You obviously don’t understand how this works.
There is NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER that any white professor at Occidental, Columbia, or HLS between 1979 and 1993 would have given a person of the African-American persuasion who was an “out” socialist a “C” or a “D”. It is inconceivable.
It is barely possible - and I do mean BARELY - that a brave rebel would have given him a “B”. But not likely.
I’m certain Barry was an “A” student - simply because the system would not allow him to be anything else.
The thing about Ivy league is once you get in, you have to do very little work to pass. It’s soooo expensive they don’t want little Timmy failing. To get an A is probably as difficult as it is in a state school, maybe.
The main problem with Barry BamaRamaDingDong’s records is he applied as a FOREIGN student. That info can never get out.
He’s probably more concerned with the actual course titles.
90 credit hours in “victimology, socialism, and I hate America”.
I bet his SAT or LSAT scores are hidden better than H-bomb secrets.
That being said his actions show me that he is so far out of any President on his ability to run this country, one he is not very bright or the later he hates America, he is a racist, mixture of Black Theology with roots he is proud of from his father's faith and his mother's communism.
Most folks in the media don’t care and will refuse to question Obama or his staff about his grades.
We know virtually nothing about Obama’s past as the media has refused to do similar reporting like they did with Clinton, Kerry, Bush, Gore, etc.
Makes you wonder why it was so important to report about Bush’s past alcoholism but the complete lack of curiosity about Obama self-admitted felonious drug use.
“Junkie. That’s where I’d been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn’t been about me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn’t make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate’s sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you’d met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. You might just be bored, or alone. Everybody was welcome into the club of disaffection. And if the high didn’t solve whatever it was that was getting you down, it could at least help you laugh at the world’s ongoing folly and see through all the hypocrisy and bullshit and cheap moralism.”
Source: Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p. 87 Aug 1, 1996
“Obama confesses to getting high in order to “push questions of who I was out of my mind.” (page 93) He cites using marijuana and cocaine, but he explicitly assures his readers that he did not use crack.(page 93).”
So? Dubya was a C average student as well.
Obama admitted himself that he was in a “cocaine induced haze” through college.
What kind of grades do you think people in a “cocaine induced haze” make?
The point is no one stated this fact in the press. They made him sound like a brilliant individual...dah.
He is obviously not dumb in the traditional sense. He is intelligent in the ways of a criminal or pathological liar.
His goal is to destroy the USA and it is working. One penstroke at a time. He honestly thinks that is what a president is supposed to do. Be a dictator because that is what he saw growing up. That is what makes him the most dangerous man in the country. That is why the natural born citizen requirement is in the constitution. He found a loophole and exploited it.
You are so confused.
Both my kids went to Ivy League schools.
The vast majority of the students are workaholics, and more than half are on some form of financial assistance.
At Princeton there is NO grade inflation and the kids are graded on a curve.
My daughter worked a part time job the whole time she was there and graduated with a 3.0, working like a dog.
My son was a neuroscience major and also worked very hard for a 3.3.
The reason a lot of the kids at the Ivies get good grades is because they are very smart, super competitive, and they work hard.
Please talk about things you know, otherwise you risk sounding like you don’t know what you are talking about.
Plus didn’t he recieve scholorships? Grades are necessary to maintain them
Most don't take science as a major. History majors at Ivies are not busting their asses.
MIT, which technically is not Ivy league, is PASS/FAIL the first year. What a joke.
This is nothing more than unsubstantiated allegations and rumors. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OBAMA EVER WENT TO ANY OF THESE SCHOOLS. If you have Any Proof whatsoever, let’s see it, this is only hyperbole on behalf of Obama.
SHOW ME THE:
Student Loan Applications
OBAMA ALLEGEDLY went to Occidental and Harvard but there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT HE ACTUALLY ATTENDED EITHER OF THESE SCHOOLS. If there is Show it to us.
You are suggesting equivalencey?
A C average for a Harvard MBA back in the days when that was one of the nation’s premier business degrees, is nothing to be ashamed of. Dad’s legacy status might have helped W get admitted to Harvard but it wouldn’t have helped him stay there, even Teddy K had to hire someone to try and make the grades to stay in
At least W showed some business acumen before liberal New England political genes and noblesse oblige toward Pelosi did him in
When did Barry or Moochele ever use their Harvard law degrees? Both of them gave up their licenses to avoid disciplinary action for uninvestigated actions in Illinois, BTW
I think this post is closer to the truth than the post which suggests once you’re in, you can slide through. While I never taught at an Ivy League school, I have taught in the Big Ten and my experience is that very few (if any) profs let students slide through simply because they got in.
Well, I don't have current knowledge of Old Nassau, so you may (possibly) be correct.
But when "Obama" was going to HLS, Michelle Robinson was in fact a student at Princeton. Have you read the document which purports to be her senior thesis?
If you have done so, and if you believe Princeton graded blacks on a curve when she was there, you are out of your flippin' mind.
During my sojurn in various Halls, mostly vegetation covered, the lowest effective grade for an African-American student was B- ("F" equivalent). The norm was "A". Everyone who passed through that system knows this.
Perhaps it has changed, I don't know. Based on the performance we see in the White House, I doubt it.
I was at HLS during that time period. It is theoretically possible to get onto law review with poor 1L grades, but the write on is anonymous. Likewise, almost all the grading was anonymous, except in paper classes which didn’t happen until 2d and 3d year.
Once you get into 2d and 3d year, the grading curve is even easier.
The big question would be whether he graduated cum laude or magna cum laude. That should be publicly available on a list of law school graduates or in the HLS alumni directory. If he did not then he would have been a mostly B student. I didn’t know anyone who received a C or below ever in any class. It may have happened, and Prof. Areda was known for giving 3 F’s in antitrust every year, but it was pretty hard to get poor grades. My admin. law final was definitely sufficient to prove that.
Not necessarily. I had a scholarship that was in effect as long as I was a full time student. There were no other conditions.
I agree with Jennifer Rubin, Barry was and is the poster boy for Affirmative Action. As Rush puts it, Barry is always the least qualified person in the room.
There are ... different curves ...
diversity must be preserved. It has been this way since at least the 70’s. An Ivy admission officer flat out told me I was not the right color or socioeconomic class for admission. That was the day the US Air Force gained a new officer candidate.
It's hard not to laugh out loud knowing that was written by Bill "I was born a poor black chile" Ayers.
"In 1966, 22% of Harvard undergraduate students earned A's. By 1996, that figure rose to 46%. That same year, 82% of Harvard seniors graduated with honors.
In 1973, 31% of all grades at Princeton were A's. By 1997 that rose to 43%. In 1997, only 12% of all grades given at Princeton were below the B range.
Come on now.Don’t you know that Barack Obama is America’s first affirmative action president?
Let’s hope he’s the last.
Just because HE claims to be a Law School Lecturer at Harvard and a couple people agreed, does not make it so. I WANT TO SEE REAL ADMISSION RECORDS, and TRANSCRIPTS, until then it is just an UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATION, and under HERESAY RULES would not even be allowed to be brought up in ANY COURTROOM IN AMERICA without Proper Documentation.
Exactly. Also, who writes their autobiography before they turn 40 having done absolutely nothing that is noteworthy. Answer: A self-absorbed ego maniac.
It depends on their connections, and their skin color. I would say 0bama got lots of A's and B's.
Ted getting kicked out, made him immediately available for the draft, right into the Army. The Korean War was on, and of all things, Ted was stationed as a clerk typist in the US Embassy in Paris for his tour. Supposedly no one saw him much.
Yep. On a Spanish test no less which easier to learn than English. But Daddy Joe pulled some strings and he got back in.
I forgot about that, the only standards the left seems to have are double-standards
I back you up...one of my kids went to an Ivy and she worked her butt off. She did quite well, but it did not come easy.
1) Birth Certificate
2) All school transcripts
3} All past records
4) Demand that the demonRAT candidate be forced to do the same thing
I find what you say about the Ivy League very interesting. My only connection to those schools comes from the film and tv series “The Paper Chase.” What I remember SO vividly in the movie was how incredibly hard those kids worked. It was very impressive. Now either times have changed or the movie was exaggerating. Probably the former.
It doesn’t matter what his grades were at HLS. Because the President of the HLR is a student elected position (i.e., popularity contest) Professors appointed the editors.
Where is WikiLeaks when we need it?
Real question is what did he score on his LSAT’s?
It has been reported that, for whatever reasons, Obama graduated magna cum laude from HLS, which means he didn’t receive C’s and D’s there.
I’m sure his undergraduate record is much more spotty.
Barry went to the Punahou School, which has a phenomenal reputation. Had he any sort of decent SATs, or grades, or achievement, and given his "exotic" background, he would have been an Affirmative Action free-ride shoo-in for any Ivy League College.
He wasn't. He was packed off to very so-so (and very left wing) Occidental College with no scholarship. His financial aid picture here is murky, but many think he registered as a "foreign student!" At Occidental he fell under the sway of a very left-wing, very gay advisor who passed him along to Bill Ayers, who had strong connections at Columbia, and took over as Barry's mentor. (Yes, they go back that far!)
As far as Columbia goes, he was an off-the-street sign up in The Columbia School of General Studies. General Studies is a money-making catch-all for any big university. They operate on the AAWAC principle (Admit Anyone With A Checkbook). It's a good thing. A serious student with a poor High School background can enroll in a General Studies Program at a Major U and can actually get a good education and a very good degree.
At Columbia, if one completes enough courses at General Studies, one actually gets a Columbia COLLEGE Diploma. Of course, no one knows how, exactly, Barack managed that, or exactly what courses he took, or what his grades were, or Graduate Record exam Scores were. We don't know if he took the LSAT prior to admittance at Harvard Law, or if he did, what his score was. I wager he never sat for the LSAT.
So, what we DO know about Barry academically, and it is damn little, tends to indicate that he was a very lackluster student. He does have a good command of left-wing phraseology as written for him by others, and appears on his teleprompter.
He did finish Harvard Law (where he was President of the Law Review, a ceremonial and administrative post, at which he was notorious for doing NO work and appearing at cocktail parties) and was admitted to the Illinois Bar.
We know he made false statements on his bar application, namely denying the use of any other name or alias, failing to mention a record of traffic violations, (which are not a problem if they are settled, which his were not) and drug use. We also know that he is no longer admitted to the Illinois Bar under these cloudy circumstances. (Neither is Michelle, who was set up with with the no-known girlfriends-Barry by Bernadette Dohrn.)
In my experience, both you and the poster with the hard-working Ivy kids are correct. Even when I was in college in the 1970s (our freshmen had the same mean SATs as Ivies), there were two unofficial tracks: regular and affirmative-action. The regular students took tough courses, especially the pre-meds and future-lawyer types, and basically worked all the time.
Affirmative-action cases, some of whom were ghetto refugees with criminal records, took the Black Studies and Lefty political courses, and spent a lot of time in the cars owned by the Student Activities office. I should mention that many other black students were on the regular track, having come from middle-class families and been to elite high schools; they worked their tails off with everyone else. But the other track was there. I should add that, for the non-affirmative-action students, if you were determined to be a real party-boy, you could take easy courses and survive. But you would wind up with Cs and still have to work your butt off sometimes.
The question in college was, and probably still is, how much self-respect you need in order to go to sleep at night. In Michelle and Barry's case, I'd guess not much. Yes, I read what I could take of Moochelle's Princeton thesis, and it scared me.
Ivy league schools are completely political. Left wing political. A 'C' is so easy to get in the non-science classes, that it is a defacto pass. To get an 'A' takes work and effort, some try, some don't, most pass. If you are a minority and try just little, you get an 'A'.
The sciences are difficult, and probably require effort to get a 'C'. Most people in the sciences are hard workers so 'C' grades are rare.
What did she major in?