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Smith & Wesson Under the Gun: Loses $37.3m in Q2
The Truth About Guns ^ | Robert Farago

Posted on 12/10/2010 5:10:03 AM PST by marktwain

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Moving Thompson to Massachusetts! That is a disaster, and really stupid. The corporate bosses are looking at some silly projection of "saving" while ignoring the immense investment in organizational knowledge at Thompson that they are destroying. What Thompson employee will want to move to Massachusetts?
1 posted on 12/10/2010 5:10:08 AM PST by marktwain
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What Thompson employee will want to move to Massachusetts?

No one in their right mind would move to MA.

2 posted on 12/10/2010 5:14:21 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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I have my j-frame .38 Smith revolver that I use for carry, but I stay away from their auto lines. The triggers on the M&P were awful, and the Bodyguard line was atrocious. I’m not sure who they hired into R&D, but they fail.

Springfield and Taurus make much better autos, IMO.


3 posted on 12/10/2010 5:16:31 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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1. Smith and Wesson made lots of money with the fear that obama and the dems would ban guns. That pulled in alot of sales.

2. They need to move a gun friendly state. Eventually, Mass is going to ban or tax them to death.

4 posted on 12/10/2010 5:20:40 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marktwain

I did my part:

S&W M&P AR-15

S&W M&P AR-15-22

S&W M&P 357sig Compact

S&W 915

S&W .38 revolver (Police)


5 posted on 12/10/2010 5:21:56 AM PST by airdalechief
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It almsot sounds like they have a GE-wannabe executive at the helm. Relocate for efficiencies? I love my S&W .357 revolver, it’s a shame they’re going to ruin the Thompson company in the process.


6 posted on 12/10/2010 5:24:30 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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7 posted on 12/10/2010 5:34:13 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: airdalechief
I've got two S & W 38s and a 357 Magnum and I had a semi-auto but traded it in because it jammed too often.

In a real life situation, once is too often, but even on the range, I couldn't get through two or three sessions of practice without jamming.

None of my revolvers ever jammed, I've had misfires {very rare} but that didn't prevent the next round from firing.

8 posted on 12/10/2010 5:34:22 AM PST by USS Alaska
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Smith is spending $9m+ to “relocate” Thompson/Center Arms from Rochester, New Hampshire to Springfield, Massachusetts.

Why would Thompson/Center sell out to S&W in the first place - much less get moved to anti-gun and business unfriendly Taxachusetts? Their brand stands on it's own and their product line is excellent and innovative with a special niche. It surely can't be their manufacturing expenses will be less or their corporate culture will be improved.

9 posted on 12/10/2010 5:34:31 AM PST by Gritty (Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – James Madison)
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To bad about Thompson. Love there designs, but I fear the brand will die now.


10 posted on 12/10/2010 5:42:27 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: rarestia

I bought a S&W M&P 9mm, and I actually kind of “like” its trigger.

Keep in mind, it’s a striker fired plastic gun.

Compare it to a Glock, or a Sig p250.

It takes some getting used to if you’re used to something like a 1911, but once you do it’s fine.


11 posted on 12/10/2010 5:49:42 AM PST by Pessimist
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Unbelievable.

If they can’t show a profit in this environment, they’re toast.

Sales may be down year over year, but prices are still strong.


12 posted on 12/10/2010 5:50:56 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: USS Alaska

the only S&W I have iss a 1st model Hand ejector in .45.
All my other revolvers are Colt. I never have liked autos in general and S&W’ in paticular. Tha only Auto is the M1911.


13 posted on 12/10/2010 5:54:09 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: USS Alaska

My 649 Bodyguard in .357 magnum is top shelf sweet. I understand they are selling a compact auto .380 pocket pistol under the “Bodyguard” name that is iffy. Sad.


14 posted on 12/10/2010 5:58:07 AM PST by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: marktwain
I own 2 S&W's. An Escort 61-3 and a 19. Both older guns.

S&W just doesn't make anything that I have a pressing need for or would want to "upgrade" to. The .460 is about the only thing I can think of, but that would be more for "toy" value than anything else.

15 posted on 12/10/2010 6:00:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: rarestia

Agree! Springfield XD .40 Sub Compact is an awesome weapon!


16 posted on 12/10/2010 6:03:56 AM PST by Renegade
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To: airdalechief

How do you like the S&W M&P AR-15-22? I think I want one.


17 posted on 12/10/2010 6:04:27 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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My S&Ws are a 7-shot .357 686 and a five shot.38 snubbie. They will both be in the family for generations to come.


18 posted on 12/10/2010 6:06:04 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: marktwain

I am a Smith & Wesson wheel gun collector and use a M&P45 daily. I love their products for the most part. In my opinion Smith & Wesson should do several things:

1) They should move their business to a right to work, gun friendly state that won’t tax them to death.

2) S&W should do away with the ridiculous internal locks on their revolvers except for the less free states that require them such as California, Illinois and Massachusetts.

3) S&W has done a good job of obtaining the police market with the M&P lineup. Build on that success. Be aggressive for military contracts as well.


19 posted on 12/10/2010 6:09:29 AM PST by canucksvt
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I currently do not own any Smiths. I own several Rugers and I was thinking of trading my Redhawk for a Smith 629 but they want around $800.00 for a Smith so I decided to just keep the Redhawk.


20 posted on 12/10/2010 6:14:30 AM PST by BobinIL
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