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Senate backers launch last-ditch effort to repeal military gay ban
The Hill ^ | 12/11/10 04:48 PM ET | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 12/11/2010 10:55:58 PM PST by onyx

Next week will be crucial for gay rights advocates and congressional supporters of repealing the “Don't ask, don't tell” law.

Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) are working to garner support for a standalone bill to repeal the Clinton-era ban on openly gay people serving in the military. Lieberman and Collins formally introduced that bill on Friday.

The Senate this week dealt a severe blow to repeal when it fell short of the 60 votes necessary to start considering the defense authorization bill, which contains the repeal provision.

At this point the standalone repeal bill is a last-ditch effort. The strategy has the backing of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who is on standby to facilitate a successful vote in the House. Pelosi is part of the negotiations with the Senate to try to figure out the best and easiest way to pass repeal in the face of Republican opposition and a very crowded last week in session.

“Since the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ has broad support among Senators, our troops, and the American people, it is my hope that that the Senate will move forward with an alternative legislative method," Pelosi said in a statement on Thursday. "The bipartisan proposal from Senators Lieberman and Collins provides renewed hope that progress is still possible in the Senate; an army of allies stands ready in the House to pass a standalone repeal of the discriminatory policy once the Senate acts."

If the bill is considered as a freestanding piece of legislation, it will most likely require 60 hours of debate because of the lack of unanimous consent and two possible cloture votes.

Republicans might very well stick to their pledge to block any bills until they see approval of a tax-cut deal and legislation funding the government in 2011.

It is possible Reid, who backs repeal, will have to keep the Senate in session beyond the target adjournment date of Dec. 17 to complete the legislation. There would also be pressure on the House to stay in session to get it done.


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Lieberman and Collins working on a stand-alone bill to repeal DADT!

MY God, she signed the letter along with all the other 41 Republicans to not vote on anything until the taxes were complete, but of course she already broke that pledge.

This female is both a liar and a traitor to our straight military men and women.

Condoning and legalizing sodomy has no place in our fighting forces.

1 posted on 12/11/2010 10:56:00 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

Forced Intimacy. Heterosexuals Sleeping, showering etc in the same area occupied by Homosexuals and Bisexuals.


2 posted on 12/11/2010 11:05:47 PM PST by Bullpine
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To: onyx

Something is screwy. There’s supposed to 1-5% or so percent of the world population that is queer. Why are these sick bastards fighting this hard for such a small percentage of the population?

Washington D.C. must be 40% queer and the Senate must be at least 60%.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091226100155AAzMI3B


3 posted on 12/11/2010 11:06:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: onyx

No hearings, no committee, nothing...just more CRAMMING THEIR SOCIAL EXPERIMENTATION down our throats.

How much is Hussein giving these two clowns for their butt kissing?


4 posted on 12/11/2010 11:07:04 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: B4Ranch
http://thejaghunter.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/lets-ask-and-do-tell-is-obama-gay/

Pictures at the website

May 24, 2010 – SPECIAL REPORT from WAYNE MADSEN.

Obama and Emanuel: Members of same gay bath house in Chicago

President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.

The bath house, Man’s Country, caters to older white men and it has been in business for some 30 years and is known as one of uptown Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses.” WMR was told by sources who are familiar with the bath house that it provides one-year “lifetime” memberships to paying customers and that the club’s computerized files and pre-computer paper files, include membership information for both Obama and Emanuel. The data is as anonymized as possible for confidentiality purposes. However, sources close to “Man’s Country” believe the U.S. Secret Service has purged the computer and filing cabinet files of the membership data on Obama and Emanuel.

Members of Man’s Country are also issued club identification cards. WMR learned that Obama and Emanuel possessed the ID cards, which were required for entry.

Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White Hosue and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.

Man’s Country appears to be a “one stop shopping” center for gay men. The club’s website advertises steam rooms, “fantasy rooms,” bed rooms, male strippers, adult movies, and lockers.

However, Man’s Country was not the only location for Obama’s predatory gay sex activities. The Chicago gay community is aware that Obama often made contacts with younger men at his famous “pick-up basketball” games. It was at these “pick up” matches where Obama first met Emanuel and a young Democratic campaign worker and senior bank vice president named Alexi Giannoulias. Currently running for Obama’s old U.S. Senate seat now occupied by Roland Burris, Giannoulias successfully ran for Illinois Treasurer in 2006 after being drafted for the run by Chicago’s Democratic machine.

5 posted on 12/11/2010 11:10:53 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Bullpine

This sexual deviancy is not permitted in our prisons!


6 posted on 12/11/2010 11:11:53 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
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If the bill is considered as a freestanding piece of legislation, it will most likely require 60 hours of debate because of the lack of unanimous consent and two possible cloture votes.
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7 posted on 12/11/2010 11:13:53 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx
An all-sodomite military will surely push us over the edge into another civil war.

The soldiers who care about morale and the honor of the military will resign. Those left behind, the sodomites and their enablers, will be beholden to Obama, who will want to use them as his personal SS-style secret police force.

All it will take is one US sodomilitary attack on US citizens, and we will be back to 1864.

8 posted on 12/11/2010 11:17:48 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Onward to the battle royal!)
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To: B4Ranch; STARWISE; maggief; penelopesire; SE Mom; hoosiermama; Liz; RedMDer; Fiddlstix; Syncro
Thanks very much.

ENTER THE 'ARTICLE' HERE


9 posted on 12/11/2010 11:20:02 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

There is NO upside to repealing DADT.

Not one valid reason or upside, yet these US Senators and some military honchos are aching to do just that.

We really have to question “why?”


10 posted on 12/11/2010 11:23:22 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Remember that the ultimate goal of the left is to not only legalize sodomy but to gain APPROVAL from Americans. We are beyond ACCEPTANCE now. If the military is destroyed in the process, tough luck, they hate the military anyway and have for 50 years. SHAME on Gates and Mullens, the worst leadership team at the Pentagon since Robert McNamara’s days. Gates in particular is nothing but a puppet for Obama, pure gutter trash.


11 posted on 12/11/2010 11:37:18 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: onyx
Since the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ has broad support among Senators, our troops, and the American people, it is my hope that that the Senate will move forward with an alternative legislative method," Pelosi said in a statement on Thursday.

Uh, stretch, if that were true, wouldn't it have been passed while you all had the super-majority?

12 posted on 12/11/2010 11:42:09 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: onyx
For those of you still contemplating Bolton as a potential POTUS candidate, you should know that he supports the repeal of DADT:

Asked about the president’s plan to repeal ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,’ Bolton said he is generally in favor of allowing anyone who wants to serve their country in the military to do so. “I don’t have any trouble with that [repealing ‘Don’t Ask, ‘Don’t Tell] assuming it is done in a way that is respectful of the people in the military who have great difficulty with it,” he said. “I don’t think there is any good answer to the question why shouldn’t gays and lesbians who want to serve their country be allowed to do it.”

While he told TheDC social issues “aren’t where I spend a lot of my time,” Bolton said he opposes abortion and has no problem with gay marriage – indeed, he said that gay marriage is “going to happen.” But, he added, “they are fundamentally issues to be resolved politically, primarily at the state level. And I think the notion of creating a constitutional right to abortion or a constitutional right to gay marriage is a mistake.”

13 posted on 12/12/2010 12:09:29 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Bulldawg Fan

It’s both amazing and disgusting to me that the homosexuals have such wide spread support in the top echelons of the military and congress.


14 posted on 12/12/2010 12:14:08 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: DakotaRed

Exactly so, but they were awaiting the ‘trumphed-up “study” and survey that was also trumphed-up and not sent to troops actually doing the fighting.

This is such an outrage, I can barely think of anything else.


15 posted on 12/12/2010 12:16:24 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks very much for continuing to post those statements from Ambassador Bolton. DADT is a deal breaker with me, because there is NO upside to the repeal. None at all.


16 posted on 12/12/2010 12:18:31 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie

A major eye opener to those accepting the influx of Ron Paulies is that Ron Paul also supports repeal of DADT.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/136125


17 posted on 12/12/2010 1:07:54 AM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: onyx

I pledge $$$ right here and now to help someone take her out in the primary.

LLS


18 posted on 12/12/2010 2:11:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: onyx
...the Clinton-era ban on openly gay people serving in the military...

It starts with a lie. The law before and after Clinton is that homosexuality is incompatible with military life/good order/discipline/morale. Clinton made a work around to allow those that behaved themselves serve.

19 posted on 12/12/2010 4:55:27 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Bullpine

I love How these Scumbags can come up with a CLEAN BILL for the HOMOS,but keeping the Tax rates the same as they have been for 10 years has to be loaded with tons of pork and more Billions in Debt. Tell these PHONIES to take a Hike


20 posted on 12/12/2010 5:50:30 AM PST by ballplayer
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Thanks onyx.
21 posted on 12/12/2010 7:10:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: onyx

They only had around 33% of the surveys returned. I wrote McCain and said the return numbers were probably low because those surveyed felt the same way about the last election, they didn’t like their choices.

They have to ask the simple question of repeal: yes or no. Period. No number fudging psychobable survey.

Sometimes the judges let the survey question be twisted like, should we allow the DADT law to remain, or however they want those saying no to vote yes if they miss one word.


22 posted on 12/12/2010 7:54:08 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: onyx

I wonder how those in the top rungs of the military or congress are. Personally I wonder if any of those guys would like to be subject to the scanners and pat downs we are faced with should we go through airport security, or truly walk through their own home and not want some discretion from family members’ activities.


23 posted on 12/12/2010 9:35:18 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: DakotaRed; Jim Robinson; Fiddlstix; Allegra; Lakeshark; Darksheare; Eaker; mnehring; shibumi; ...
From Ron Paul:

"I have received several calls and visits from constituents who, in spite of the heavy investment in their training, have been forced out of the military simply because they were discovered to be homosexual," Paul said Friday. "To me, this seems like an awful waste. Personal behavior that is disruptive should be subject to military discipline regardless of whether the individual is heterosexual or homosexual. But to discharge an otherwise well-trained, professional, and highly skilled member of the military for these reasons is unfortunate and makes no financial sense."
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Makes NO FINANCIAL SENSE?

That's his reason!

I've heard it all.

Legalize and condone sodomy because it makes no "financial sense" to discharge homosexuals for such deviant sexual acts!

24 posted on 12/12/2010 9:56:11 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh, FGS. This damn lameduck needs to adjourn.
This damn congress ruined Christmas last year with obamacare and they’re going for two in a row.


25 posted on 12/12/2010 9:58:48 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yes, I will also make the same pledge. TEA Party Collins.
I’d rather go with a TEA Party patriot and risk losing the seat to a rat than to have her sit one more day in the Senate.
She’s a disgrace.


26 posted on 12/12/2010 10:00:38 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: huldah1776

Exactly so. DADT fails in the new congress and these traitors and homosexual sodomy carriers know it.


27 posted on 12/12/2010 10:01:58 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Morpheus2009

I wonder how many are closeted homosexuals themselves?
For example, I’ve not found any evidence of a Mrs. Mullins.


28 posted on 12/12/2010 10:03:17 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Interesting comment below the article:

? FYI If a guy is married with children he is not gay but rather bi-sexual. Very prevalent among macho narcissistic types lacking a father figure or positive male role model. There is a high rate of bi-sexual activity among black men due to the lack of male role models, dominant female roles, social-stigma and drug use. Black women have traditionally raised their children alone, and have created dominant female roles. The stigma of being a “black homosexual” is largely socially unacceptable in black communities and even among homosexuals themselves. It remains well hidden behind the skirt of a trophy dominant female and children. Statistics show that black women were at the largest risk of contracting HIV from their males, due to black male bi-sexuality and clandestine relationships. The prevalent drug use has brought out the very worst moral-cultural groups this nation has ever seen, race being a very small factor in comparison to the rise in promiscuity, prostitution, crime, and taboo sexual practices.
Would it surprise me if Barry was bi-sexual? Not in the very least, he fits the profile to an absolute T. In fact, It would be more of a surprise if he wasn’t.


29 posted on 12/12/2010 10:25:01 AM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: onyx

Yep...as usual, Ron Paul tends to align more with the left than he does with the right.


30 posted on 12/12/2010 11:22:45 AM PST by Allegra (I painted fuchsia stripes on my elbows.)
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To: onyx

*facepalm*

When I sugned up in 1996, Bubba Gump Clintons “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” was newly minted.
Gays were signing up with the fantasy that the military would be an all you can eat meat market.
They didn’t understand that “Not asking” meant we weren’t going to ask, and “Not telling” meant they were supposed to STFU about it.
Well, one particular person we referred to as Banannasack had a habit of jumping into the shower with people.
Yes, he got his face kicked in a couple times, but he refused to learn.
Yes, he grabbed my butt.
Yes, I did beat him unconscious.
I will not apologize for it, he deserved it.
If it had been hetero sexual harassment he’d have been booted.
As you can guess, I am against gays serving.
I haven’t met one yet that could keep their hands to themselves.


31 posted on 12/12/2010 12:52:41 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: onyx; All

“This damn lameduck needs to adjourn.”

I fully concur. I would rather let the tax rates go up temporarilly than to accept the repeal of DADT or to accept all the pork attached to the current bill to extend the Bush tax reductions.

I KNOW that the new congress will be able to get the Bush tax reductions extended and without all this other trash thrown in. Mr. Obama will have to deal from a much weaker position in January.


32 posted on 12/12/2010 2:17:49 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: onyx; All

“This female is both a liar and a traitor to our straight military men and women.”

A snake is always a snake...it is in its nature.


33 posted on 12/12/2010 2:20:40 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: mojitojoe

Right. He’s definitely gay and likely fakes it with women because of the stigma. He *had* to get married and produce children for his political career.


34 posted on 12/12/2010 2:21:43 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Allegra

Absolutely and this is an outrage.
For financial reasons!!!


35 posted on 12/12/2010 2:22:46 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Darksheare

Outrageous! UGH. Good on you!
Then you well know what will go on during showers if this repeal goes through. It’ll be “anything goes” - it’s all condoned and sanctioned.
Every senator voting for repeal is unfit for office.


36 posted on 12/12/2010 2:28:51 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Exactly.
Those who claim there won’t be a problem are deluding themselves, or worse -purposefully evil.


37 posted on 12/12/2010 2:31:44 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Sola Veritas

Yep. This corrupt congress has no business being in session. Congress will still be corrupt, but the House has a chance to straighten up and fly Right.


38 posted on 12/12/2010 2:32:17 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Darksheare

Well, the two pushing for this stand alone bill to repeal DADT, have never served in the military, have they?

Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins!


39 posted on 12/12/2010 2:34:18 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Yeah, they wouldn’t have to worry about homosexual sex assaults, AIDS, Hep C and such.


40 posted on 12/12/2010 2:38:00 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

And what are they going to do to ensure a clean blood supply? Test the homos every month or spare them from the front lines?


41 posted on 12/12/2010 2:45:37 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

That violates the medical right to privacy, so they won’t do that.
So, they decrease the effectiveness of our military in that fashion.


42 posted on 12/12/2010 2:47:04 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

Oh
My
God


43 posted on 12/12/2010 2:54:33 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Yes.
That was my response too.


44 posted on 12/12/2010 2:58:43 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare

That was your response to what? That thing you made up?

All recruits are tested for HIV, and a positive result precludes entry. They are tested at least every two years, and before and after each deployment.


45 posted on 12/12/2010 4:42:41 PM PST by ivyleaguebrat
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To: backwoods-engineer
"An all-sodomite military will surely push us over the edge into another civil war."

Yet, the big-L Losertarians tell us that social issues don't matter. As a veteran, I'm sick and damn tired of the Commie SOB social engineers monkeying with my Army.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

46 posted on 12/12/2010 9:28:20 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: B4Ranch

It’s less than 2% and of course an unknown number of former homosexuals. They hate that.


47 posted on 12/12/2010 10:59:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: onyx; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; ...
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This HAS TO BE STOPPED. It means ruin, destruction, perversion as normal, weakening the military, destroying the social fabric of the country. Those who think that homosexuality is normal and natural and that "open" homosexuals should be in the military (the "closeted" ones are bad enough) has NO MORAL COMPASS. They are lost and want everyone else to follow them into the abyss.

48 posted on 12/12/2010 11:01:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: ivyleaguebrat; All

Ten Reasons to Oppose an “LGBT Law” or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts

Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts

Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts

In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts

“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts

“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts

“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts


49 posted on 12/12/2010 11:08:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: ivyleaguebrat

Made up?
Ever hear of HIPA laws?
And while recruits are tested, if homos turn up HIV positive AFTERWARDS it is hushed and not spoken of.
Thanks to HIPA.


50 posted on 12/13/2010 2:02:49 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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