Posted on 12/11/2010 10:55:58 PM PST by onyx
And what are they going to do to ensure a clean blood supply? Test the homos every month or spare them from the front lines?
That violates the medical right to privacy, so they won’t do that.
So, they decrease the effectiveness of our military in that fashion.
Oh
My
God
Yes.
That was my response too.
That was your response to what? That thing you made up?
All recruits are tested for HIV, and a positive result precludes entry. They are tested at least every two years, and before and after each deployment.
Yet, the big-L Losertarians tell us that social issues don't matter. As a veteran, I'm sick and damn tired of the Commie SOB social engineers monkeying with my Army.
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It’s less than 2% and of course an unknown number of former homosexuals. They hate that.
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This HAS TO BE STOPPED. It means ruin, destruction, perversion as normal, weakening the military, destroying the social fabric of the country. Those who think that homosexuality is normal and natural and that "open" homosexuals should be in the military (the "closeted" ones are bad enough) has NO MORAL COMPASS. They are lost and want everyone else to follow them into the abyss.
Ten Reasons to Oppose an LGBT Law or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts
Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts
Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts
In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts
THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts
MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of dont ask, dont tell
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts
Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts
Made up?
Ever hear of HIPA laws?
And while recruits are tested, if homos turn up HIV positive AFTERWARDS it is hushed and not spoken of.
Thanks to HIPA.
I HAVE BEEN WRONG ALL THIS TIME?
BEEN SPELLING IT HEPA.
Probably is an E, I just got off work.
Darksheare, it may be “hushed up” in the sense that it isn’t announced to the world, and the service member isn’t kicked out, but HIPAA privacy rules are not absolute... An HIV+ service member is absolutely precluded from being deployed outside the continental U.S.
Little jeremiah, thanks for the info, but I wasn’t commenting on the desirability of repealing DADT. Obviously testing is not a panacea (window periods and such), and “men who have sex with men” (as the CDC calls them) are of course at much higher risk.
I was commenting only the notion that medical privacy rules would mean HIV+ service members (straight or gay) cannot be kept off the battlefield.
http://www.militarydefense.com/docs/decision_vermont_ntl_guard.pdf
http://williamcassara.com/discharge.html
“Mr. Cassara represented an Army E-4 who was discharged from the South Carolina National Guard for being HIV positive. Mr. Cassara petitioned the Army Board for Correction of Military Records on the soldiers behalf, arguing that the discharge was illegal because the National Guard failed to follow established regulations on treatment of HIV positive soldiers. Mr. Cassara provided the Board with medical documentation proving that the soldiers status did not interfere with his military duties and that he was still able to serve. The Army Board agreed, and determined the soldier was illegally discharged. Decision allows the soldier to be reinstated with back pay and to continue to serve.”
http://www.militarydefense.com/military_law_cases.php
In December 2007, Mr. Sheldon successfully defended a Navy Chaplain convicted of forcible sodomy and aggravated assault (having unprotected sex with another male without disclosing his HIV status). The Navy Chaplain was sentenced to 12 years in the brig, but Mr. Sheldon had negotiated a plea agreement that capped confinement at 24 months.
The chaplain above was HIV positive...
In the airforce, HIV status falls under “misconduct” as follows:
http://milcom.jag.af.mil/ch06/reasons.doc
— Having human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and not complying with lawfully ordered preventive medicine procedures (e.g., safe sex order)
-— Airmen approved for discharge for having HIV and not complying with lawfully ordered preventive medicine procedures are not eligible for probation and rehabilitation
You got that the Health Infomation Privacy Act was used to keep HIV positive people in uniform, right?
"Darksheare, it may be hushed up in the sense that it isnt announced to the world, and the service member isnt kicked out, but HIPAA privacy rules are not absolute... An HIV+ service member is absolutely precluded from being deployed outside the continental U.S."
No. This is what you said: Post 45
All recruits are tested for HIV, and a positive result precludes entry. They are tested at least every two years, and before and after each deployment.
Now that you've been proved wrong you changed your statement but posts do not simply disappear.
I figured I’d toss in those links, just for the record, so to speak.
Homosexuals don’t belong in the military. And people can be infected and infective often for (IIRC) a couple of months before tests show positive. It varies of course. There are many other reasons why homosexuals don’t belong in the military, but even the AIDS reason alone is enough to kick ‘em all out and let none back in.
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