does anybody remember incinerators?
we had a gas incinerator in the basement, next to the gas furnace, you dumped all kinds of crap in there and it torched it
Posted on 12/12/2010 3:55:10 AM PST by Scanian
Edited on 12/12/2010 4:06:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Among the number of plant closings announced in the United States this week: A printing plant in Greenburg, Ind., costing 220 jobs; a tomato processing plant in Westover, Md., with 103 people fired; an office-supply facility in Mattoon, Ill., with 129 jobs lost.
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For nearly 60 years we have defended the South Koreans with American lives and treasure and in return we got one of the world's most protectionist economies that had all but shut out our goods. In the 80's and 90's as they were building up their auto industry they had like a 300% duty on US cars.
Similar deals to this need to be put to the Japanese and Taiwanese.
This whole thread is about a false choice between absolute free trade vs. absolute protectionism. America will prosper just fine if trade is made a two way street.
Next time, don't listen to us. As someone else posted, "People don't get rich cleaning other peoples' toilets."
I almost wonder if the whole "service" thing, as well as some of the other buzzwords, like "Multilevel Marketing" were really a conspiracy of the incompetent and unskilled.
I live in a village which was a thriving mining village for over 120 years; it still sits on top of TWO rich seams - Blackbed and Beeston - and it's far from played out.
I looked those seams up. Seems to be plenty left, but around 670 meters for one of them. There were a few pits still open in 2004 or so..?
Aw,come on.
Most people had washing machines and small TV’s in the fifties.
Polio was not a concern after 1954.
You were right on the dishwashers——they came later.
I’m not talking about those stupid washing machines with the wringers. And as far as television sets go, I’ll wager you can tell the difference between one from the 1950’s and one from 2010.
Oh, and folks were concerned about polio in the 1950’s. Thanks.
Yeah I was born in 48.
Houses in general were a lot smaller. My adult kids can’t imagine growing up in a house with one crapper, LOL.
One car per family was pretty typical too. Now the average seems to be about 2.5.
Don’t forget air conditioning.
does anybody remember incinerators?
we had a gas incinerator in the basement, next to the gas furnace, you dumped all kinds of crap in there and it torched it
I work in the oil industry. We know we are. It isn't worth much two miles down, unless you can get it up here and use it.
This isn't government. If what you do doesn't show a profit, you get a free ticket to the bread line.
Please don’t blame Reagan or Thatcher for this.
Under Reagan, the US economy grew by one-third. It was a stunning turnaround.
Thatcher had no less of an achievement in taking Britain from a basket-case in the 1970s to great progress. British Steel and Leyland and a host of Govt-run industries were a disaster. It was the right thing to cut them loose.
Their economic track records were great and you cant cite trade trends after they were gone as their fault. As you say yourself, free trade is not the problem. (And besides which Reagan was not a pure free trader; they kept truck import quotas in place and protected steel and Harley Davidson.)
So dont blame them. They didnt put in place, like we have in the US, nutty corporate income tax rates of 35% that tax money that is ‘repatriated’ up to that rate. It actively encourages companies to keep money overseas, where, you know, they can then hire and spend.
In the US, a Chinese made toy in Walmart gets taxed almost 0% rate, while a US made one has to pay for payroll, income, corporate income etc. And you are right, the playing field is NOT level, but The WTO rules and our failure to tariff-level the tax field is OUR fault.
Your DRAM plant is no different from fabs in the US. Or in France or Germany, look at Infineon, or the whole semiconductor industry going ‘fabless’ and sending manufacturing to Taiwan (TSMC). Intel CEO put the blame on US REGULATION. He says it costs and extra $1 billion due to US regulation. I’m guessing Taiwan is not so worried about global warming and about making tight rules on industry.
it’s not free trade, it’s not Reagan to blame. It’s these 2 simple basic facts:
1. We live in a global marketplace.
2. Our LEADERSHIP IS NOT 100% COMMITTED TO WINNING ECONOMIC SUPREMACY IN THE 21ST CENTURY GLOBAL MARKETPLACE.
With their distractions on socialized healthcare, phony global warming scares, environmental over-regulation, and financial regulations to refight the last war, and with sub-par education, our leadership is lacking.
China has an agenda: Become #1. What’s USA’s? what is Europe’s? Why does Europe squander its leadership on outrageous lies and follies like the global warming scam?
Why does Europe not stand UP for itself?
Our top leaders are community activists and lawyers. China’s top leaders are engineers. Who know better how to manage complex technological issues? hmmmmmm.
“Where are the Tariff loving Yankees of yore when you need them? “
They became outsourcing consultants.
OTOH, what is wrong with this: “We don’t want to be making shoes — we’re making pharmaceuticals, software, high-tech cars. That’s how you become a rich country.”
The only thing I see wrong with it is that most of the high-tech is done by Asian H1-B engineers and you say that’s ‘insane’. Insanity - affirmative action in colleges; funding useless liberal arts instead of focus on science, engineering and math; without qualified graduates, we either need H1-B folks to fill roles or watch jobs go overseas.
Awesome.
You don’t need tariffs to reduce the effects of globalization. Just have an expensive and time-consuming safety and security inspections of all imported merchandise.
No tariffs are there for foreign nations to retaliate against... making our exports more expensive to the world.
But since it costs so much in money and time, more and more companies will find it more convenient and cheaper to just build the factories here, employ Americans, and make the stuff in country.
All these tax lovers and the admin don't do a thing? Maybe it's not a troll attack but just an info problem.
History: back in the 1700's some patriots rebelled against the UK's import taxes and they had a tea party so the import tax lovers fled to Canada. Our problem now is we got New England import tax lovers joined with the Detroit payroll tax lovers, the Chicago income tax lovers and the California everything tax lovers and they're all are in congress taxing and spending all they can before today's tea party kicks them out.
Then we'll only have tax lovers on threads like these...
Might want to consider asking India how much it’d cost to have India claim the interior of your company building as sovereign Indian territory for the time your company will be housed there.
That way, US laws would not apply within your walls.
(Don’t know if it’d fly, but it might be worth considering.)
dittos on all your posts. I am very pro-tariffs. Start with tariffs on imported oil and couple that with drill here and drill now and ramp up our nat gas and coal production
God favors them who do for themselves. We have to shuck off these foreigners and the stuff they try and flood this country with
A tariff is technically not a tax and it is consumption based. It is far better than an income tax and superior to the stealth vat tax. Tariffs require balls to enforce, it is easy to wage levies against us commoners, but against entire nations, well that takes courage....
What these “Free Traders” don’t understand is that it is real hard to fight a war without an industrial base.
Didn't the Nazi's perfect those during wwii?
Words mean things:
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tariff [ˈtærɪf] n 1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a. a tax levied by a government on imports or occasionally exports for purposes of protection, support of the balance of payments, or the raising of revenue b. a system or list of such taxes 2. any schedule of prices, fees, fares, etc. |
--and an import tax is consumption based just like an income tax is earnings based and corporate taxes are production based.
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