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World Net Daily fabricates a "Missile" Contrail tale
Faith, Reason, and Health ^ | 12/12/2010 | Dr. Brian Kopp

Posted on 12/12/2010 10:47:16 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: fabian
...it had the trajectory and contrail of a missile, not a plane for heaven sakes...

Really?

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The second pic is of the same contrail, taken within minutes of the first pic. The difference is that it was taken from a position further north, by a webcam at LAX, so we see it more from the side rather than head-on.

How does it look like like anything other than a typical jet contrail from a jet flying inland from the west?

561 posted on 12/17/2010 10:15:55 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: TigersEye

Hey Tiger, got any proof yet? I’m waiting for you to put up some data, show me your proof!

I know you are reading this, but are too gutless to respond.

Show me the data!


562 posted on 12/17/2010 10:30:31 PM PST by Sto Zvirat
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To: Yardstick

You can put up whatever pic’s you want and believe they are what you want to believe. I know what the original video shows. All else can be manipulated for whatever reasons. That video is not a plane..and you have lost some commonsense somewheres!


563 posted on 12/17/2010 10:31:32 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Yardstick

I have seen plenty of Jets take off from LAX and none of them leave a plume contrail like this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAZLYn44FeQ&feature=related

What is wrong with you? Are you paid to spin this?


564 posted on 12/17/2010 10:41:59 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian
All else can be manipulated for whatever reasons.

Are you aware that the video itself was edited in order to manipulate? It was cut and spliced together to create as strong an impression of a missile launch as possible. The cameraman himself admitted that they ran it in order to boost ratings for sweeps week, which was that week.

The pictures taken by Warren and the LAX webcam provide additional information and let us get a more complete understanding of what happened. Taken all together, it's clear that what we are looking at is a contrail and not a missile launch.

565 posted on 12/17/2010 10:45:53 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: fabian
Naturally they don't leave a contrail when they're taking off. Contrails generally only form at high altitudes.

And when they do, they can look like this:

Contrail Pic

566 posted on 12/17/2010 11:00:08 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: TigersEye

Rick didn’t take 57 images. Did you ever take the opportunity to contact Rick and ask questions? I did. Find his contact details on Flickr and ask him the questions you are posing on this thread? You like doing research so why not research Ricks motive for taking those images? Have you ever visited and viewed his photostream?


567 posted on 12/17/2010 11:18:57 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: TigersEye

Maybe people are just bored with constantly repeating themselves when all it takes is a bit of concentration on the various threads discussing the subject. I’ve been away for a bit and have now caught up with all the threads and subsequent posts discussing this subject. It isn’t that hard!

See post #61 on the following thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635102/posts?q=1&;page=51


568 posted on 12/17/2010 11:48:24 PM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo
Well, now we know you can post a link. But why this?

To: Rokke

Forget about the experts—if KCBS thought they had an awesome piece of footage, the thing to do is to release only a minute of edited and recycled film?

Freegards

51 posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:44:59 PM by Ransomed

I know you've been far away. Over on AboveTopSecret.com. AFAIK no one has ever posted a link to a retraction from Jane's. If we rely on you we never will.

569 posted on 12/17/2010 11:55:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Tommyjo
Oh, you wanted me to see this post. Well why not link directly to it? So you thought I should have found that one post in all the thousands of posts on the 48 threads on this subject and I'm somehow negligent because I missed that one? Are you too stupid to live or what?
570 posted on 12/17/2010 11:57:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Tommyjo

And now you want me to search through every post on that forum? (why you are too lazy or too big of a jerk to just link to that in the first place is amazing) Forget you jerk.


571 posted on 12/17/2010 11:59:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: fabian
Not the first time that an aircraft contrail has caused a missile flap in the US.

Florida 2008

Link to video

California 2009

Link to video

If both of these had been run on prime time TV then you would be getting the same reaction as on 8th November. Those pesky Chicom subs have been busy in the last few years!

572 posted on 12/18/2010 12:03:23 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: TigersEye

I can see that it is annoying for you that Jane’s Rockets and Missiles quickly dropped the ‘missile’ theory. Proof that even experts in the field can be fooled by edited footage.


573 posted on 12/18/2010 12:08:55 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

Piss off, wanker. I’m not wading through all those posts on another forum just to find another post that says “you can’t read what Jane’s says unless you pay the money.” I don’t really give a rat’s ass if they changed their story. So did the DoD. So has the MSM. So have most of the people here who now say “contrail.” So what?


574 posted on 12/18/2010 12:14:06 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

LOL! No worries. I even provided the post numbers for you. It can’t be that hard? Why do you think Jane’s reversed their decision? It obviously upsets you. Maybe it’s a conspiracy! ;)
Keep up the amusing rants! Freepers entertainment at its best!


575 posted on 12/18/2010 12:24:48 AM PST by Tommyjo
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To: fabian; Tommyjo
fabian: (#529) "The video piece I saw was not edited my friend."

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TXnMA: (#530) "Read this FR post: RAW VIDEO: Mysterious Contrail Off Calif. (CBS's title)".

"Then please come back here, FRiend, and let us know if your statement above is factual."

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Tell us: Was your statement factual? Or was that video edited?


577 posted on 12/18/2010 12:51:21 AM PST by TXnMA (Hooptidoodle!!!)
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To: Yardstick; fabian
"Are you aware that the video itself was edited in order to manipulate?"

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Yes, fabian is aware of that fact.

I intended to ping you to #577. Check it out...

Let's see if he has enough cojones to answer...

Got 'em, fabian?

578 posted on 12/18/2010 1:04:24 AM PST by TXnMA (Hooptidoodle!!!)
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To: Yardstick; Tommyjo

FReepMail for you...


579 posted on 12/18/2010 1:46:49 AM PST by TXnMA (Hooptidoodle!!!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; All

I watched the original CBS video-—several times.

IT WAS A MISSILE.


580 posted on 12/18/2010 1:50:11 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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