Posted on 12/13/2010 12:35:16 PM PST by nickcarraway
He was on the ground:
“When Theodosiou told Monzon he was going to shoot him, Monzon ran toward a fence and started to climb it until Theodosiou told him to stop.
Monzon got on the ground, but police say Theodosiou shot him anyway, hitting him in the ankle. “
You can’t shoot a guy after he surrenders.
It's wrong to kill and unarmed man, but its right to shoot a dangerous person in the leg to incapacitate them.
Somebody on the ground couldn’t threaten your life with a concealed weapon?
Shot in the ankle and he had to be air lifted?
There is no such thing as "shoot to wound."
There is no part of the body that does not have arteries. Sever an artery, and you have killed the person.
Doesn't matter that your intentions were pure.
Maybe they could but you have to deal with the fact that he’s complying. You told him to stop and he did, while it’s theoretically possible they still present a danger once they’re complying you’re kind of obligated to not shoot them, steer the order in a way to lessen the potential threat (”spread your arms away from your body, move over to the light, what the hell are you doing here”) and handle things peacefully. Back in the day the standard line was “stop or I’ll shoot”, nobody says the whole thing anymore but there’s still that implication, he stopped, you don’t shoot.
The fact that he only shot to wound show that he is a good person who mercifully spared someone's life.
Tell that to the scumbags who pulled a gun on me, called me nigger, and threatened to shoot even after I thrown down my wallet and laid on the ground.
Good luck with the jury.
Quiet as a mouse.
Those guys are called criminals, not exactly model behavior. If you’re defending your home you shouldn’t take your direction from criminals, good people don’t shoot somebody that’s surrendered.
It only takes one juror to refuse to convict.
I think in most states you can detain someone until LEO arrives, but you can’t shoot someone who is complying with you commands. If things occurred as stated in the article, it was a bad shot.
It’s not a matter of training, it’s a matter of being smart. When you tell somebody to stop you can’t shoot them when they stop. He’s complying, he’s indicating he’s no longer a threat, shooting the cooperative is both morally wrong and illegal. He could easily have the guy move to someplace where he can keep an eye on him while he calls the cops, and then stay on the line WITH the cops, they really don’t like walking into a situation where somebody has a gun drawn even if it’s a good guy.
It’s really not that hard. There’s no such thing as shooting to wound, shooting somebody is trying to kill them, period. If you try to kill somebody that’s surrendered already you lose your right to be on the good guys list, period. It’s important to never point a gun at anything you’re not willing to kill, it’s just as important to know when it wouldn’t be a righteous kill, and after they surrendered is WAY off the list.
If the odds of a hung jury were so wonderful, there wouldn't be so many plea bargains.
What happened to the "Finding Diversity on Your Property at O'Dark Thirty Doctrine"? That one seemed to work.
The dude attemped to flee, he told the dude to stop, the dude dropped to the ground. Not self defense.
Unless you believe they pose a threat to your life.
He’s complying, he’s indicating he’s no longer a threatI'm supposed to believe whatever he indicates?
He could easily have the guy move
Without being attacked by the unrestrained criminal? How would he do that? By asking nicely? Should he order the criminal to accompany him back into his own house where his daughter lives so he can case the joint?
Who the hell are YOU to say what this man could have "easily" done or what was going on in his mind?
As far as I'm concerned he went easy on this punk.
You can in Texas, but you are prohibited from eating them.
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