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Gays in military would undermine defense
Sun Sentinel ^ | December 13, 2010 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 12/13/2010 2:06:02 PM PST by Red Steel

People who take polls for a living will tell you that, depending on the methodology, the sample, how a question is asked and the understanding of the ones being polled, the outcome can pretty much be predetermined.

If you are dependent on a superior for your job and that superior tells you he wants a certain conclusion reached about a policy he wishes to implement, that, too, can affect the outcome.

Such is the case with President Barack Obama, who has told gay rights groups he intends to end the "don't ask, don't tell" policy and allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. From the comments by Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, it appears the president's message has placed their job security above what is best for the military and the country. Many lower-ranking officers do not share their opinion about the effects openly gay service members would have on our military.

The Pentagon poll touted by Gates and Mullen was "rigged," said a recent editorial in The Washington Times, which noted, "From the outset, the Pentagon had no interest in eliciting honest responses from the troops about whether the law … should be preserved or repealed. Instead, soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines were addressed in terms of implying that repeal is inevitable."

Furthermore, said the newspaper, "63 percent of respondents live off-base or in civilian housing and consequently answered that a change in policy might not affect them. Those in combat roles — where unit cohesion and trust are life-and-death concerns — gave a different response."

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The military is one of our primary national underpinnings. So is marriage. No wonder the gay rights movement seeks to undermine both.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; gays; homosexualagenda; homsexualagenda
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To: Eska
But still, you ain't going to keep them all out. As long as they do their job and don't go out flag waving their disease; I say let them alone; feel sorry for them rather than hate them.

Troll Alert! You're talking about an agenda here to accept homosexuality as normal. Gay pride day in the Marines, well it's coming fool. These fudgepackeres can't be stopped. You give 'em and inch they'll shove it in a mile.

21 posted on 12/13/2010 4:18:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: verity; Jim Robinson

Women have no place in the military either. Jim Robinson is NOT a supporter of repealing DADT. STFU.


22 posted on 12/13/2010 4:20:15 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Chode

What happens if one of those disgusting fudgepackers happens to come into your line of fire with the enemy. You gonna stop shooting?


23 posted on 12/13/2010 4:22:26 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: hoyt-clagwell
If people only knew how many active and reserve military folk visit that gym who are gay....like you said don't ask and don't tell.

Takes on to know one, you thinking about switch hitting?

24 posted on 12/13/2010 4:24:35 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
i'm not suicidal
25 posted on 12/13/2010 4:49:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
i'm not suicidal

What does that mean?

26 posted on 12/13/2010 4:51:05 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
i'm not suicidal as in, i'm not going to shoot some fagazz and put the unit a gun down in a fight when you need all weapons brought to bear without good cause if that's what you mean...
27 posted on 12/13/2010 4:59:37 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
i'm not going to shoot some fagazz

That kind of trigger discipline is hard to find. It is a great temptation.

28 posted on 12/13/2010 5:01:18 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Takes on to know one, you thinking about switch hitting?

See my profile page...nuff said...and my wife is all I need anyway. I can barely keep up with her :) as is. 2 times per week in her late 40's.... No internet e-standards..The gym does that to her.

29 posted on 12/13/2010 5:03:50 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: central_va
Women have no place in the military either

You have lost a credibility. This woman was awarded the Silver Star. What have you done armchair commando??

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30 posted on 12/13/2010 5:09:54 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: central_va; Jim Robinson
Women have no place in the military either

A mom receiving the flag at Arlington for her daughter who was KIA in Iraq...You need to STFU. These women have more balls than you ever will. You make conservatives look like loons

http://www.life.com/image/53467794

31 posted on 12/13/2010 5:14:41 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: ninonitti

Not a lot one of ‘em told Michael G.New years ago that the UN patches were necessary because they made the Uniforms”look fabulous.”


32 posted on 12/13/2010 6:01:20 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: hoyt-clagwell

Well said.


33 posted on 12/13/2010 7:15:51 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: verity

By law, women do not serve in front line combat units.


34 posted on 12/13/2010 9:03:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: hoyt-clagwell

I stick by my statement, no women in the military. You STFU.


35 posted on 12/14/2010 3:34:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: hoyt-clagwell

She shouldn’t be there. Putting young women in harms way is not a conservative value. We won WWII without women in combat, it was in all of the history books.


36 posted on 12/14/2010 3:36:18 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Red Steel
The Pentagon poll touted by Gates and Mullen was "rigged," said a recent editorial in The Washington Times, which noted, "From the outset, the Pentagon had no interest in eliciting honest responses from the troops about whether the law …

We all knew the Pentagon was lying... In the long run, becoming known liars will work against them.

37 posted on 12/14/2010 3:55:00 AM PST by GOPJ (Sharpton wants Limbaugh off the air- if you don't hate liberals yet, you're not paying attention.)
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To: Red Steel

There are no front line combat units in its asymmetrical warfare. Moreover, females can serve in CSS units many of which are in direct support of and in close proximity to combat units.


38 posted on 12/14/2010 5:31:30 AM PST by verity
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To: central_va
Asshole.

Sober up so you can follow a conversation.

And I do not give a damn what Robinson's position is on any subject.

39 posted on 12/14/2010 5:34:49 AM PST by verity
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To: verity
"Is it not ironic that that the same was said about female soldiers serving with men? lol"

Are you implying that homosexual males are to be segregated from the men just like the females? Reverse that to the female carpet munchers (They will not want to bunk with their fellow homosexuals with the opposite genitals by the way).

So you have separate quarters/hot bunking comprised of straight males, homosexual males, straight females, and homosexual females (In order to make everyone comfortable). Next we have the HIV status for deployment in case their is a breakout with one infected homosexual (Who seem to spread HIV more easily with anal sex) spreading the disease. Sounds like a cluster f* of special rights afforded to those who stick penises in men's anuses. Good for you and your behavioral (Remember, women are segregated) experiment as well as never being content with what is working.
40 posted on 12/14/2010 5:47:39 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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