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Charles Krauthammer Tells Bill O’Reilly Sarah Palin Must Expand Policy Knowledge
Mediaite ^ | 12/14/10 | Glen Davis

Posted on 12/14/2010 7:28:22 PM PST by pissant

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To: The Cajun

ROFL. Your ignorance on this more hilarious with each post.

Fist it was he gave his seat up to his son because of the “scandal”. Only then you find out (because I was kind enough to tell you) that that occurred in 2005 and he readily won re-election in 2006 with this “scandal” swirling around him.

Second, you show complete ignorance of who pressures whom for funding defense systems. Congress doesn’t pressure the DOD to fund things. Congress FUNDS them. And the DOD complies. THe DOD, usually following the lead of the current administration, lobbies for and against weapons systems.

THird, you are ignorantly conflating things. Cunningham had nothing to do with the funding the VTOL program. That was Hunter’s earmarks from the HASC. And DuPont aerospace had nothing to do with the Cunningham Bribes scandal.

Fourth, explain why a San Diego based defense company WOULDN’T contribute $36,000 over 20 years to their congressman? Especially a defense hawk? And in your conflation of things, you are implying Hunter gave back that money from DuPont. He did not.

Fifth, the reason you are conflating things is because you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sixth, you state hunter had “illegal aerospace contributions”. He did not.

Seventh, you said Hunter “had to give the contributions back”. He didn’t have to. They weren’t illegal.

Eighth, you ask if it was “ever cleared up”. He wasn’t under investigation.

Ninth, you claim Hunter isn’t as honest as Palin. Show me his lies. Or indictments. Or illegal contributions. Or un-idicted co-conspirator status. If accusations by liberals is your method of determining honesty, Lord help ya. If being buddies with a patriot, Top Gun, conservative like Cunningham is dishonest, you’re nuts. In fact, Hunter doesn’t even have the typical political “dishonesty” prevalent amongst 95% of politicians - flip flopping and spinning. He does neither. Palin does. In one breath she says no amensty, the next breath she’s telling Bill O’Reilly that the illegals get to stay and work if they register. Very McCainsian, huh?


341 posted on 12/16/2010 1:59:54 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Fist = First


342 posted on 12/16/2010 2:03:41 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
According to several publications (some of which you have used to criticize Palin with), Wilkes and ADCS gave $40,700 to Hunter who was chair of House Armed Services Committee. Hunter joined with Cunningham to pressure the Pentagon to give Wilkes/ADCS its' first big contract.

This is the same outfit that they nailed Cunningham with.
Hunter gave the money back and Cunningham (fall guy) went to jail.

BTW both Hunter and Cunningham were involved in putting pressure for the failed VTOL project to continue.
It's a birds of a feather type of thing.
It seems they investigated the hell out of Cunningham (fall guy), but investigated nothing on Hunter....ODD (Lots of rumors circulating at the time as to why not).
Like I said little Hunter "Cultist", the man ain't as pure as the driven snow!

343 posted on 12/16/2010 3:19:35 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun

They must really hate Hunter then because Wilkes’ company was using german bought technology and Hunter asked the Pentagon to use a company using US made equipment. BTW, that 40K was given to Hunter over an 11 year period. He gave Arnold that much in one election cycle.

He gave Bush over 100K for his presidential campaign. Imagine that


344 posted on 12/16/2010 5:30:06 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: The Cajun
BTW both Hunter and Cunningham were involved in putting pressure for the failed VTOL project to continue. It's a birds of a feather type of thing.

Revisionist history from an ignoramus who has no clue what he's squawking about. But I sure do enjoy the comedy.

345 posted on 12/16/2010 5:33:08 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Revisionist history from an ignoramus who has no clue what he's squawking about. But I sure do enjoy the comedy.

Do a Google or Bing search, many references to their collaboration on the little Dupont Aerospace deal. Lots of information on the failed aircraft that nobody wanted but Duke (convicted felon) and Duncky Doo. Heck, Duncky Doo and Cunningham (convicted felon) sent a letter to Dick Cheney demanding that the Dupont Aerospace fiasco project be continued...Fancy that!
Oh, before I forget, Duncky Doo got more money (contributions) than Duke (convicted felon) on this deal, but Duke (convicted felon) more than made up for it on the Wilkes/ADCS deal.

Lots of little things can be found out, like the US attorney who got the Cunningham (convicted felon) conviction was fired by the Bush administration while pursuing similar type corruption of other individuals. All investigation stopped (Republicans and Rats involved), go figure.
Oh, before I forget, there seems to be information that Duncky Doo used his influence to help companies that used the Wilkes/ADCS system (you remember them, the one that Duke (convicted felon) went to jail for).

You can't face the raw facts huh Ace, two guys accepted money from the same outfits, used their influence to benefit the outfits and one went to jail and one didn't. One knowingly accepted millions and one knowingly accepted thousands (that we know of), kind of the difference between pregnant and a little pregnant in my book, but I'm not a Hunter "cultist".

NOTE: I have been aware from the start that the Dupont aerospace fiasco and Wilkes/ADCS fiasco are two different cases. Was just trying to show collaboration between Duncky Doo and Duke (convicted felon) on two failed projects.

346 posted on 12/16/2010 7:12:48 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun
Uh huh. Why don't you link to a few of those "many" collaborations on DuPont. Cmon, I know you can do it. Show me those Cunningham earmarks for DuPont. The ONLY thing they "did together" on Dupont was write a letter to Cheney - in 1991 when he was SecDef - bitching about a 4 YEAR DELAY on testing the VTOL. 1991. Long before the VTOL was deemed a failure by anyone. It was in in its infancy. Here's the link, you ignoramus.

http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2007/06/1991_cunningham.html

You can't face the raw facts huh Ace, two guys accepted money from the same outfits, used their influence to benefit the outfits and one went to jail and one didn't. One knowingly accepted millions and one knowingly accepted thousands (that we know of), kind of the difference between pregnant and a little pregnant in my book, but I'm not a Hunter "cultist".

So campaign contributions are bribes now? Hunter's $$ went into his campaign coffers. Cunningham took cash, multiple times, into his personal bank account and accepted all sorts of other "gifts".

Here are Hunter's top donors in his career:

Northrop Grumman $90,665
General Dynamics $81,100
Lockheed Martin $77,849
General Atomics $70,400
Cubic Corp $69,750
Carlyle Group $68,000
SAIC Inc $60,875
Seafarers International Union $58,000
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $57,000
National Assn of Realtors $53,800
Titan Corp $50,720
BAE Systems $49,210
National Rifle Assn $48,750
American Maritime Officers $48,000
SAT Inc $47,875
Continental Maritime $47,505
Boeing Co $46,400
Raytheon Co $46,350
Marine Engineers Beneficial Assn $36,500
CH2M Hill $33,650

No Wilkes, no DuPont. Just typical donors, mostly defense related, as would be expected from a guy on the HASC. I bet all that $$ from the NRA drove Hunter to become a advocate for the 2A. What a crook, huh?

Did you thing Greenpeace and the Sierra Club would be the people wanting him re-elected? You are slandering the guy, big time, by equating campaign donations with outright bribes. But you don't care. All in the service of Precious, I reckon.

347 posted on 12/16/2010 7:41:42 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
by equating campaign donations with outright bribes.

A lot of times they are Pollyanna Pissant.

You are slandering the guy, big time

Just stating what I found on the Internet. Just like you do about Palin.
No reason to get all unglued there Duncky Dooist.

All in the service of Precious, I reckon.

Oh BTW, I much prefer having Sarah Palin as my Precious than Duncky Doo like you......Some people here already have enough doubts about you.....Just saying.

348 posted on 12/16/2010 8:09:52 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun
A lot of times they are Pollyanna Pissant.

Then you should be a big fan of campaign finance reform, eh?

The fact of the matter is that defense companies will donate to hawks, especially ones in their district. Just as comm companies donate to folks on the regulatory agencies associated with comm, and globalist corporations will donate to guys who spout free trade rhetoric. Unless you want to go to public funded campaigns there is no way around that.

Just like you do about Palin.

What a crock. Which leftwing outlet, or MSM site criticizes Palin for the things I do? Did they suddenly decide they wanted illegal aliens all deported? Did they suddenly decide that Title IX is a feminist boondoggle?

When I start agreeing with the aholes that were suing her in AK, or I start claiming that she hates the environment because she didn't want to list Polar bears on the ESA (or shot a caribou), or I start yelling "troopergate" and "$150K wardrobe", then we'll have parity with what you are attempting here.

But feel free to carry on w/o me on it. It bores me.

349 posted on 12/16/2010 8:38:33 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: exit82

“He should have told Obama right there on the tarmac—”Hey, pal, we have millions of gallons of oil spilling while you’re here for a photo op. I don’t a sh%t about Food Stamps right now.”

Agreed, he should’ve taken a page from James Carville’s playbook, i.e., “Man, we’re dyin’ down heya!”.

You make many good points also. I remember a fellow Freeper relating meeting BJ, that his handshake was rather weak and he was a very slight, softspoken guy (I’m paraphrasing, sorry). I like BJ, think he’s righteous and sincere, but for many reasons (besides the birth thing), isn’t the right one for what we need anyway. It’s gonna take a very exceptional person in all aspects to beat this SOB in Chief and his extremely powerful machine.


350 posted on 12/16/2010 9:00:08 PM PST by llandres
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To: pissant
For someone who's bored, you spent a lot of time researching and writing there Hunterette ;^)
As far as your PDS, it's kind of historic, it even out does the known trolls.
I think most of your problems are a combination of PDS and HWS. Kind of a PDS/HWS thing.

HWS = Hunter Worship Syndrome

351 posted on 12/16/2010 9:17:47 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Finny

Both Hillary and BHO were exceedingly slick and strong on debate and rhetoric. We shouldn’t have to choose between someone who can whip the opponent and one who gets across our conservative values.

We’ll need BOTH, and then some - all that AND a bag of chips - in this next, never-more-critical election. That’s if we’re fortunate enough to even have an election.

It’s that serious.


352 posted on 12/16/2010 9:20:39 PM PST by llandres
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To: The Cajun

I did all my research 3 years ago. Hasta


353 posted on 12/16/2010 9:22:17 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Thought you were done at post 349 little one.

I did all my research 3 years ago.

Sure thing. LMAO!!!

354 posted on 12/16/2010 9:31:12 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: sarah fan UK; HospiceNurse

I am over a day behind answering, but thank you very much for this good news ping. Nasty troll, that one.


355 posted on 12/16/2010 11:34:15 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: HospiceNurse; tpanther; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...
IATZ


356 posted on 12/20/2010 11:47:12 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: HospiceNurse

Ah...the smoke from your zot is incense to my nostrils.


357 posted on 12/20/2010 12:55:30 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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