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Edible Fracking Chemicals
American Thinker ^ | December 15, 2010 | Peter Wilson

Posted on 12/16/2010 3:34:50 AM PST by Puzzleman

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The Wall Street Journal however reports good news today in its story, "Edible Ingredients Used to Drill for Gas." Apparently Halliburton and Baker Hughes have developed fracking chemicals using fatty acids and other ingredients found in toothpaste, ketchup, ice cream and beer. The enemies of cheap natural gas of course won't congratulate Halliburton for being a good steward of the planet and switch their position. I wonder where the next attack will come from. Fatty acids in the edible fracking chemicals lead to an obesity epidemic in the caribou population?

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: chemicals; energy; frac; gas; green
Sounds like good news for our energy supply.
1 posted on 12/16/2010 3:34:54 AM PST by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman

Halliburton better leave my fracken beer alone. They fracken mess with my beer & there”ll be fraken h*ll to pay. (Sorry. Someone had to go there)


2 posted on 12/16/2010 3:56:15 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: Puzzleman

"This is a big fracken deal!"


3 posted on 12/16/2010 4:01:10 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: rickb308

>>Apparently Halliburton and Baker Hughes have developed fracking chemicals using fatty acids and other ingredients found in toothpaste, ketchup, ice cream and beer. <<

Don’t panic; CarboxyMethylCellulose (CMC) has been used for almost a century as drilling mud in oil fields, as well as a binding agent in toothpaste, ketchup and ice cream. It’s also used to stabilize beer, allowing it to be shipped without going flat.

ChemE’s study all about CMC, since it is a non-Newtonian fluid and can only be pumped with a Moyno. Amazing what the mind retains for so long.


4 posted on 12/16/2010 4:09:10 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Puzzleman
I wonder where the next attack will come from. Fatty acids in the edible fracking chemicals lead to an obesity epidemic in the caribou population?

Nothing that rational. Just that fuel produced in this way would make drivers obese.

5 posted on 12/16/2010 4:10:27 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Puzzleman

Get your frackin’ fatty assid outa my face! LOL


6 posted on 12/16/2010 4:45:56 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Puzzleman

This is ridiculous. Using food based products as fracking fluids is no different than converting our food into ethanol. It will lead to higher food costs and higher fuel costs. Get the tree huggers out of the oil industry’s hair.


7 posted on 12/16/2010 4:51:42 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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To: Puzzleman

Well service companies also use sand and (rarely) walnut shells to prop the rock formations open. Last time I checked, both were environmentally friendly.

In limestone formations, they use HCl, which is found naturally in our stomach's.

The biggest environmental threat lies in their extensive use of dihydrogen monoxide. This stuff is highly corrosive, can kill if inhaled in even small quantities, is a key component of global warming and acid rain, plays a major role in the formation of cancers, and is used to activate most harmful bacterial agents.

8 posted on 12/16/2010 4:58:46 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: BuffaloJack

You are comparing a thimble to several tanker trucks. The volume of these additives are very small and much gets recovered.


9 posted on 12/16/2010 5:17:46 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Puzzleman

Did someone say fracking!?

10 posted on 12/16/2010 5:21:38 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: BuffaloJack

11 posted on 12/16/2010 5:22:32 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
C'mon, don't introduce facts - it's gospel that fracking will turn our groundwater into Jersey-grade toxic ooze.

You can't counter articles of liberal faith with facts, after all.

12 posted on 12/16/2010 5:28:53 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Just because we’ve been doing this for 60 years and 9 out of 10 onshore oil or gas wells require fracture stimulation to remain productive...

This is still a new experimental procedure and we need to pass laws against it.

And don’t forget, we also need more OPEC imports.


13 posted on 12/16/2010 5:34:53 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: dirtboy
Actually, I don't really like that Haliburton graphic I used above. While correct for the percentages of mixture, most of the Fluid System is 7.5% dilute Hydrochloric acid. Consequently, most of the Fluid System is water as well.

This one is better for the layman, but you have to click the picture to see the clear pdf.


14 posted on 12/16/2010 5:39:39 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Zakeet

“The biggest environmental threat lies in their extensive use of dihydrogen monoxide”

BAN DHMO! /s


15 posted on 12/16/2010 6:03:38 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: thackney

I wonder if this has come too late for NY as Gov. Patterson (not really a bad guy given he is a dem) issued a ban on this type of drilling. It is unlikely the new communist my fellow New Yorkers elected, Mafia Man Cuomo, will lift the ban on drilling even if the chemicals were holy water.


16 posted on 12/16/2010 6:38:06 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: rickb308
BAN DHMO!

Isn't that like oxidane? We should ban oxidane too! What is Al Gore's oxidane footprint?

17 posted on 12/16/2010 6:49:59 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: rickb308
BAN DHMO!

Isn't that like oxidane? We should ban oxidane too! What is Al Gore's oxidane footprint?

18 posted on 12/16/2010 6:50:16 AM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: Puzzleman

Boy did they sucker-punch the Enviros on this one!

Of course it will open a whole new line of attack against McDonalds, Proctor and Gamble, and Coors...


19 posted on 12/16/2010 7:31:24 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All

All right, folks. This is serious. Stop all the wisefracking.


20 posted on 12/16/2010 7:39:00 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: NTHockey; thackney; epithermal
Yeah...the way they have marketed this is "we include ingredients used in gummi bears"...

hmmm...I don't care about the stuff that's edible...it doesn't fix the stuff that's NOT! :-)

Also, this is the same Halliburton that admitted only a couple of years ago that they were still using diesel fuel to frack, despite promises given years earlier that they wouldn't do that anymore. And as Thackney illustrated, they and the industry groups are using misleading graphics still. It has been demonstrated recently in PA and NY that the actual fracking fluids being used don't match the graphics they show.

One of the chemicals in fracking fluids has a main purpose of inducing tumors in lab animals so anti-tumor drugs can be tested. Even consultants working for the gas companies have published results showing such things.


The problem is, fracking doesn't need to be banned...but the lies and misrepresentations of gas companies are just as bad as those on the other side. There's no way the government should block property rights of those who want protection of their groundwater just because someone wants to burn "clean natural gas" instead of "dirty coal".

Disclaimer: I have personal and professional interests that would be promoted by the increased exploitation of shale gas.

21 posted on 12/16/2010 8:49:16 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: NTHockey

FReeper ChE Ping List!


22 posted on 12/16/2010 8:52:00 AM PST by Rio
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To: Gondring

I don’t think fracing fluid is going to be a popular drink just yet:

“Halliburton has introduced a hydraulic fracturing fluid formulation made with ingredients obtained from food suppliers. And no, the fluid is not considered edible.

Compounds used in fracing are under scrutiny as some members of Congress question its safety. The use of fracing in the US dates back to the 1940s. Currently, the development of shale plays and horizontal drilling has increased demand for frac services.

Halliburton said its CleanStim fluid system provides excellent pumpability, proppant transport, and retained conductivity. Laboratory tests showed over 90% retained conductivity after 24 hr of flow. The fluid can be applicable over a broad temperature range providing up to 30 minutes pumping time at 225° F.

CleanStim involves a gelling agent, crosslinker-buffer, breakers and a surfactant. Frac crews mix the CleanStim formulation with water at the job site.

Crews on conventional gelled frac jobs can use the CleanStim fluid. In addition, CleanStim components can provide friction reduction for water frac treatments commonly used in shale, Halliburton said.”

http://www.ogj.com/index/blogs/health-safety-environment/blogs/OGJ/health-safety-environment-blog/post987_179881260336125052.html


23 posted on 12/16/2010 8:58:05 AM PST by epithermal
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To: Puzzleman

There is a long list of greases and lubricants that are used in the food industry that can be consumed. They don’t taste so hot, but they are edible.

I am really pleased to see this happen. Kudos.


24 posted on 12/16/2010 9:05:23 AM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: Zakeet
dihydrogen monoxide.

; )

25 posted on 12/16/2010 9:17:12 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: epithermal

Exactly. I’ve got nothing against improvements, but to imply this stuff makes it all okay is flat-out wrong.


26 posted on 12/16/2010 9:25:35 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: epithermal
I don’t think fracing fluid is going to be a popular drink just yet:

Does it get you 'high'?

27 posted on 12/16/2010 9:27:47 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed postpThey're playing an apples-and-oranges game.)
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To: Puzzleman

"The earth has a fever will get coronary artery disease!"

28 posted on 12/16/2010 9:32:25 AM PST by OB1kNOb (China is now the world's ant. America has become the world's grasshopper. Fear the coming winter.)
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To: Hardraade

“fuel produced in this way would make drivers obese. “

If someone threw enough money at it there could be study results that link bio-diesel emissions the smell like french fries to obesity via getting hungry from smelling it.


29 posted on 12/16/2010 9:32:37 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Puzzleman

They are doing everything they can to stop it here in New York....


30 posted on 12/16/2010 10:20:39 AM PST by The Mayor (Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty!)
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To: The Mayor

And those of us in other states who want the high paying jobs and increase economic growth in their state thank NY politicians for reducing the competition.

Maybe this will help speed up the growth of the Haynesville shale growing just 10 miles more to the south...

Retirement could come early then...


31 posted on 12/16/2010 10:39:37 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: UCANSEE2

Right before you go blind!


32 posted on 12/16/2010 10:44:31 AM PST by epithermal
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To: Gondring

Agreed. I had seen the Wall Street article before and it fails to note that while it has edible ingredients, it is still NOT edible. The Oil & Gas Journal article is written by a person familiar with the industry and all the other lame stream media types tend to ignore the science.

The person that wrote that O&G article has a new one out on water quality versus fracing here:

http://www.ogj.com/index/blogs/health-safety-environment/blogs/OGJ/health-safety-environment-blog/post987_4300761846110829966.html

I thought of starting a new thread with it, but there is not a lot new in the article that I haven’t seen elsewhere.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 10:51:27 AM PST by epithermal
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To: Puzzleman
"get the frack outta here you fargin icehole!"


34 posted on 12/16/2010 12:53:17 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: thackney

That’s a nice chart. Helpful.


35 posted on 12/16/2010 2:16:29 PM PST by seanhackbarth
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To: Puzzleman

The Obama administration is saying good things about fracking, but regulators at many levels are becoming the problem:

http://blogs.forbes.com/greatspeculations/2010/12/16/regulatory-grinches-threaten-obamas-natural-gas-christmas-wish/


36 posted on 12/16/2010 2:19:45 PM PST by seanhackbarth
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