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DREAM Act blocked in Senate
MSNBC ^ | 12/18/10 | Carrie Dann

Posted on 12/18/2010 9:22:36 AM PST by gandalftb

Senate Republicans blocked a measure Saturday that would have offered provisional legal status to some adults who came to America illegally as children.

Democratic backers of the legislation fell short of the 60 votes to move the DREAM Act legislation forward. Democratic Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, and Ben Nelson of Nebraska voted against bringing the bill to the floor; Republican Sens. Richard Lugar, Lisa Murkowski, and Robert Bennett voted for it. The vote was 55-41.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; dream; dreamact; illegalimmigration; mexico
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To: Charles Henrickson

Lugar should be a top target to remove in 2012. The Tea Party needs to make sure he gets voted out. Smirking RINO POS.


61 posted on 12/18/2010 10:37:32 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: EGPWS

ALL of TV is bad. Price Al Waleed’s FOX is only marginally better. I went GALT on ALL media a year ago. They will not get a nickel from me.


62 posted on 12/18/2010 10:39:22 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

I hate that Lugar but the democrat party is the main threat.

I bet you all wanted Republican Scott Brown gone and now we know is he against Amnesty. Brown is correct on this issue while the major ones supported here are not as clearly against except Tancredo.


63 posted on 12/18/2010 10:42:27 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: posterchild
All they get is a permanent green card. They have to go through the process like everyone else, learn American history, speak English, etc. That's OK but they ought to be expedited on paperwork and interviews just like veteran's are in hiring practices.

The Mexican citizens that are Marines would be fluent in English and likely easily qualify on education. The delay is that they can't start much of the citizenship process until they are honorably discharged.

If they have met all the education requirements they ought to be sworn in as citizens the day they finish their Marine contract.

64 posted on 12/18/2010 10:47:51 AM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go Cowboys!)
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To: milwguy

Murkowski cheated her way back in, but it will be the last time. Lisa needs the kind of publicity bashing Sarah has endured, and the Tea Party needs to start early. Don’t give her a break.


65 posted on 12/18/2010 10:51:44 AM PST by pallis
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To: Principled

I agree with that. Praise the Lord for this one though.


66 posted on 12/18/2010 10:53:00 AM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Frantzie

Is there any potential opponent for Lugar yet?


67 posted on 12/18/2010 10:53:21 AM PST by Grandma Conservative
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To: EternalVigilance

Me too :):)


68 posted on 12/18/2010 10:54:09 AM PST by gandalftb (OK State, 10-2, Go #14 Cowboys! Valero Alamo Bowl 12/29 Beat AZ!)
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To: JPG

“So, what does a queer illegal who wants to enlist do now?”

He can always pick...Fruit.


69 posted on 12/18/2010 11:01:54 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: gandalftb
Of the three (START, DADT, DREAM), I beleive DREAM is by far the most dangerous to the United States. I think DADT can be handled through future legislation, regulation, or both. START's limits on Strategic Defense are a very bad thing, but apparently are written in such an obtuse manner that a future president with a spine could easily disregard the limits due to lack of clarity.

DREAM, however, is an open door that cannot be closed once its open. It can only be opened wider.

70 posted on 12/18/2010 11:13:04 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: gandalftb
Of the three (START, DADT, DREAM), I beleive DREAM is by far the most dangerous to the United States. I think DADT can be handled through future legislation, regulation, or both. START's limits on Strategic Defense are a very bad thing, but apparently are written in such an obtuse manner that a future president with a spine could easily disregard the limits due to lack of clarity.

DREAM, however, is an open door that cannot be closed once its open. It can only be opened wider.

71 posted on 12/18/2010 11:13:16 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: gandalftb

http://www.armybase.us/2010/01/foreigners-in-u-s-military-get-fast-track-to-citizenship/ claims some sort of fast track is already in place.

Would they not need a ‘green’ card to enlist in the first place? This would apply to every foreign national, not just those from Mexico. DREAM didn’t address this issue anyway AFAIK - it was strictly about those here illegally from any country.


72 posted on 12/18/2010 11:34:21 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: gandalftb

The Dream Act dying like this is the best thing that could have happened to the Democrats. Since it failed, they will not be saddled with being “pro-illegal alien”, while at the same time they can tell the ever increasing Latino Voting Block that they tried to support them but were stopped by the nasty, racist GOP.

This loss is good for the country but bad for the GOP.

I hope they get their ducks in a row from the jump in 2011.


73 posted on 12/18/2010 11:38:32 AM PST by Little Pharma
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To: gandalftb

It is not enough to delay the encroaching statism. The state has to be disassembled. We need government shrunk.

We need to start an indefinite moratorium on immigration, in general.

To show I’m willing to ocmpromise, we can start with just an indefinite moratorium on immigration of muslims and leftists.


74 posted on 12/18/2010 11:41:54 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: Democrat_media; gandalftb; EGPWS
Way to go you who place a vote just because of an "R" after the name!

Obama, Reid and Pelosi would LOVE to have the entire opposition think exactly like EGPWS.

They would love to see as many "conservapurists" like George Allen, Santorum, ODonnell, Miller, etc sitting on the sidelines with their principles (and wothout a vote) as possible.

75 posted on 12/18/2010 11:47:20 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Democrat_media; gandalftb; EGPWS
Way to go you who place a vote just because of an "R" after the name!

Obama, Reid and Pelosi would LOVE to have the entire opposition think exactly like EGPWS.

They would love to see as many "conservapurists" like George Allen, Santorum, ODonnell, Miller, etc sitting on the sidelines with their principles (and wothout a vote) as possible.

76 posted on 12/18/2010 11:47:32 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: gandalftb

DADT is nothing compared to this DREAM Act. Sure I don’t care for it but DADT wouldn’t destroy the United States in two years like the DREAM Act would.


77 posted on 12/18/2010 11:50:39 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Little Pharma
This loss is good for the country but bad for the GOP. I hope they get their ducks in a row from the jump in 2011.

What should the GOP promise the latino cartel to get their vote?

78 posted on 12/18/2010 11:53:28 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: gandalftb

Problem is that Obama is planning to run the DREAM act administratively.


79 posted on 12/18/2010 12:02:23 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: gandalftb

My tweet about AP Spin on DREAM vote was retweeted by Sarah Palin to her 338,000 followers:

SarahPalinUSA

Media, cut the bull. MT @VRWCTexan: AP SPIN Headline > “Republicans Block Youth Immigration Bill” http://yhoo.it/eviYIX


80 posted on 12/18/2010 12:03:25 PM PST by VRWCTexan (Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it !)
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