Senate clears way for 'don't ask don't tell' repeal

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/blogs/beltway-confidential/2010/12/senate-clears-way-dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal#ixzz18U6wkthW ^

[RatherBiased.com]

The Senate has just voted to end debate on a bill that would lift the ban on gays serving openly in the military, essentially clearing the measure for passage and signature by the president.

Lawmakers voted 63 to 33 to end debate on the current policy, put in place by former president Bill Clinton, informally known as "don't ask don't tell."

The Senate could vote on final passage of the measure as early as today but it will most likely happen on Sunday or Monday.

"We are on the verge of ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' for good," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said after the vote "This is one of those moments in our history when we stepped up and squared our policies with the values this nation was founded upon."

[manc]

yes I know I was replying to the poster who thought that homosexuals were in already that there would be no change but as you said there will be and it will being so many problems. Imagine now going on base and seeing two men kissing or some men wearing women's clothes after work? It's sick and yet we still have the small minority saying they know a couple of homosexuals and they have no problem

[ShandaLear]

I will. I have known him since he was 8 years old, I love that kid.

[ShandaLear]

I will. I have known him since he was 8 years old, I love that kid.

[Alter Kaker]

Republicans who voted for repeal: Murkowski, Voinovich, Brown, Kirk, Snowe, Collins

Republicans who abstained: Hatch, Gregg, Bunning.

Democrats who abstained: Manchin.

[caww]

Good post and right on.

[ScottinVA]

So, next is the modification of the UCMJ to legalize sodomy.

I`m glad Gens. Patton, Eisenhower, MacArthur, et al aren`t alive to see this.

[manc]

my two sons were to join the Marines now they have just said that they will not.
There goes a hundred years of military tradition in this family.

[Husker24]

Its not that Gays will be allowed to serve in the military that bothers me so much as the fact that the top Brass will institute no discrimination policies that will end careers and punish people for even the smallest perceived slight by a homosexual, such as a gay joke.

[GenXteacher]

“I agree with this; but does that include laws of the land to enforce what we KNOW is morally correct, but which is a religious morality?”

I contend that the majority of our problems stems from deviation from Judeo-Christian principles. Morality without Christianity is like vapor- dissipated on the winds of the situation. Our government was designed with this sort of thinking in mind; while they envisioned a land where it was possible not to be Christian, the Founders at no point imagined the gross paganization and descent into barbarism taking place now.

“When in fact, the key I think was that gay sexual activity was banned; I think we need to still prohibit all gay sex between military members, and that will be the biggest fallout from repeal.”

The biggest fallout will come later. Failure to promote an openly gay person will result in a lawsuit; likewise, gays in positions of power will promote other gays, and lawsuits by straight soldiers will fail, as will sexual harassment complaints. Also, the military will be forced to recognize gay couplings as legitimate as marriage, and that opens the door to having it made law throughout the rest of the society.

“I oppose this repeal, because I see this as an attack on our culture by a militant group concerned more with changing normalcy than getting along or being allowed to serve. “
I think you are correct here, for the most part. I think though, that they had someone behind them who desired to weaken the US military and that it is all a part of this:
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

[ShandaLear]

Answer a question for me, if a gay person goes to battle for this country and dies in the process, is his sacrifice less than a heterosexuals?

[ohioman]

A reason you will never figure out.

[OldGoatCPO]

You are correct, gay males tend to remain more circumspect, they will lose the respect of their peers or their troops. Gay males are less likely to be mentored and we know how important a mentor is in the military, at least the Navy. Most of the real issues centered around gay females. That will get worse, while the males will really have to be careful about coming out openly. Despite the corrupted poll, most junior officers and men will not respect a gay leader.

[ShandaLear]

That remark is simply stupid.

[apronius]

Good to see some people still have fight left in ‘em.

I am sick of us always being on the defensive. It’s time to reverse that.

[ohioman]

I am sure Ernst Rhoem’s mother loved him too - same as Hitler’s.

[roses of sharon]

It will destroy the US Military as we know it...the greatest military in the world.

No parent in their right mind will encourage their 18 year old boy to sleep, live, or shower with another man who openly, proudly, and admittedly has anal sex, and prefers it with young ones, for obvious reasons. No way.

Eventually, good men will leave and retire, just as is planned by the leftwing commies whose goal it is to reduce the power of the US economy and military.

Here is their latest FU to Americans:

“If there are people who cannot deal with the change, then they’re going to have to do what’s best for their troops and best for the organization and best for the military service and exit the military service, so that we can move forward — if that’s the way that we have to go,” Hill says in an interview with Roland Martin, scheduled to air Sunday.

Hill says it will be up to military brass to “set the tone” for the rank-and-file in accepting gay service members.

[napscoordinator]

That is exactly why it could be passed without the “well reenlistment's will drop”. No it won't. Nobody wants to get out of the military in this economy. Plus, two of the services are cutting their numbers and two will once Afghanistan is over. This was a very purposeful situation that had every position in place. Bad economy, cutting the force, democrats, RINOs, Christmas time, and many others. This could not have been more choreographed if tried.

[steve86]

the FIRST thing that’s going to happen is that the military will institute Gay Diversity Training and EVERY marine will be ORDERED to attend.

This is when individual Marines have to take up arms against those officers issuing immoral orders. No kidding. No point in continuing to call themselves United States Marine Corps otherwise. The brand stands for certain values that can not be abridged.

[manc]

first off they are homosexuals not gay unless you lie playing the lefts word game.
Secondly they should not bee there in the first place as most of us do not want them. I say we as those who are serving or have served.
Thirdly with all their diseases they have form their sick sex then do you think I or others would be wanting to touch their blood knowing that they might have a disease which can be given to me and cause me death later on.

Manning is a perfect example of why homosexuals should not be there.
They care about letting people know what turns them off and gets them off more than anything else
Look at the homosexuals at the white house chaining themselves up.
Where were they with cuts tot he military?
why did they now demonstrate those cuts which costs lives?

I’ll answer for you because they care about their homosexual agenda and another thing I will say to you.
Jim R has made it perfectly clear time and time again that this site is a conservative site which is not for the homosexual agenda.

[ScottinVA]

I won`t recommend the military either, especially to friends and family members. I don`t want them subjected to forced living arrangements with queers.