Posted on 12/24/2010 8:08:49 AM PST by Charlespg
There have been many, many FR threads about this case.
This link will get you a lot of them:
In my part of Texas, you can expect to get about as far as the mailbox before meeting God. Ain't no "possibly aimed at" or "perhaps fired upon". You'll be toes-to-Jesus, period. And all your friends' widows can bury what's left of you and your buddies after the coyotes are done.
I haven’t heard of this before now either. Without saying Mr. White was right or wrong I will say that had he been a white man and the drunks in his yard black, he’d still be in prison. And the sentence would have been much longer.
Half of the people here are outright stupid.
Read it again.
murder of a white teenager he claimed was part of a ‘lynch mob’
He was an outright murderer who can "claim" anything to get off. - There was no "lynch mob."
What color is the sky where you live?
It was a couple of boys and the hopped up dad charged out with a gun and killed one.
Of course he got off - he was black, the kid was white, and ever since OJ, the precedent has been set.
Next, you all will be defending the good black Panthers at the polling place.
Keep holding the media's feet to the fire - good job /s
Mr. White had no reason to go to....and I quote...”THE END OF HIS DRIVEWAY”...note these guys were NOT on his property....silly me, I think this is important.
Mr. White could have, silly me, locked his door and CALLED THE POLICE...the sort of thing civilized people do.
This is how the prosecutor argued the case. Mr. White used bad judgement. We all use bad judgement from time to time but when that bad judgement results in a death, we have to look into. Mr. White got found guilty of manslaughter, a fair enough verdict.
White says that Ciccaro lunged for his weapon...who knows if this is true? I’m going out on a limb here and suggesting that an unarmed drunk adolescent isn’t likely to be reaching out for loaded firearms and let’s please not forget that White’s son was also carrying a gun, a rifles....dag, you think this was all a bit much? The story about lunging for the gun was sure a convenient way to provide some logic to shooting an unarmed man on a public sidewalk.
To all you folk on this thread defending this guy, well I think the very fact that you’re smart enough to join Freerepublic this means you’re probably smart enough not to go running out to the end of your driveway shooting up a mob of drunk and unarmed adolescents who show up for some kind of crazy vendetta.
Now maybe you’ll would grab a gun for protection, this is understandable. But I’m thinking most of you would call the police while remaining inside of your home until they could arrive. THIS is what a sane logical person would have done and THIS was the prosecutor’s argument. Which a jury of the defendant’s peers agreed with and an appellite court upheld.
White did a damn dumb thing, probably reacting with anger, maybe even righteous anger you could argue.
But to debate that White was completely within his rights to run out there and shoot a damn dumb drunk unarmed teenager BEFORE even calling the police....well maybe it’s just me, but I think that’s a really dumb argument.
As for the kid who died....hey, he was a real dumbell. All of them were dumbbells, getting drunk and going off on some kind of silly mission to confront another kid who supposedly threaten rape. The bunch of idiot kids didn’t even have any proof of the story. But they were drinking and probably had some testerone flowing through their veins.
Out of that whole gang, there was ONE adult. And that adult grabbed a gun and ran out and shot an unarmed kid.
And folks smart enough to belong to Freerepublic are defending this sort of thing.
Finally, hey, I dunno...maybe pardoning White is the right thing to do. I don’t think he should spend any long amount of time in jail. I don’t believe for a minute he intended to kill anyone. But such as grabbing loaded guns and running out while filled with anger and self-righteousness does tend to lead to stuff like this. The prosecutor had a public need to punish this dangerous turn of events as it’s not how we want civilized people to behave.
The leftist brainwashing on race is wide and deep.
This shooter justified his actions based on his frame of mind formed in part by tales he was told in his Brooklyn youth about KKK mob violence witnessed by his grandfather in a state far away before the shooter was even born.
Yet let a white person say he reacted to a black person based on the white person’s own experiences with other black people and see if that white person isn’t denounced as a racist of the worst sort.
I think you got it pretty much exactly right with this post.
“There was no “lynch mob.”
Ohhhh,, so the 4 were only there to beat him senseless! And because it was 4 young against one old+one young,, they should have just taken their beating?
Honestly, i kinda think it’s funny. Bet the little jerk was sure surprised at what dad had.
“I’m going out on a limb here and suggesting that an unarmed drunk adolescent isn’t likely to be reaching out for loaded firearms”
Yes, such people are known for sound judgement.
“and let’s please not forget that White’s son was also carrying a gun, a rifle”
So he sees this,, and he’s still there running his mouth? He apparently wasn’t leaving. Why defend this little turd? Blowing out his lamp probably saved his son or some other person in the future from being attacked by him.
The fact remains,, you don’t go to a man’s house, in a group, to pick a fight with his kid,,even a foot or two from the propery line. Maybe the other 3 learned a good lesson.
Well I’m pretty much done here.
You just keep on defending the right to shoot someone under these circumstances.
White should have grabbed his gun, locked his door, phoned the police and been prepared to fire should his life be in danger.
Of course that group of dummies shouldn’t have did what they did....I don’t see myself defending it.
We shall just have to agree to disagree.
I think I’m right, I think the prosecutor was right, I think the jury got it right, I think the appellate court got it right, I even allow that perhaps the pardon has a bit of right to it.
I think YOU are wrong.
You want the last word, have at it.
4 unarmed teenage high school kids are a “lynch mob” ?
They were not even on his property?
This guy deserves 20 to life
It was a miscarriage of justice that he only got 2-4 years.
It is an outrage that he served only five months.
It is disturbing that so many “conservatives” support this.
Why would anyone think that?
She spoke of gun rights in terms of blacks being able to defend themselves against racist mobs. If it isn’t exact it’s pretty damn close.
In this case the shooter was not defending himself. He was attacking the victim.
Why? Because I have read threads about schools enacting bullying rules towards gay students. Bullying shouldn’t be allowed, regardless of sexual orientation, race, religion, etc.
So, I apologize for even mentioning it.
“I would lean toward a sympathetic response to just about anything a man did on his property that could be interpreted as protecting himself or his family against a superior number of drunk, angry, and rowdy teenagers. The details matter, but they had no business on his property and such a situation could easily cross the line beyond which armed self-defense was a reasonable response.”
I agree. On this thread, the undisputed facts are: (1) Four angry young men; (2) Drunk; (3) Confronting one old guy; on (4) The old guy’s property; and (5) One young man was three inches from the gun when it went off.
If I’m on my property pointing a gun at four angry drunk teens, one should not get within three inches of my gun. That is a threat to my person if you disarm me, which at that range and given the strength and speed difference due to age is reasonably likely.
There’s probably more to the story. But I’d have to see quite a bit more before I would condemn the old guy for this. The young lady who lied about the rape should go to jail and should be on her knees there begging forgiveness of everyone involved.
What a sad thing for the kid’s parents and family. And, for the shooter and his family. Ninety percent of the really stupid, sad things on the news involve young men and drugs or alcohol.
What a lousy, messed up world. I am so ready for the Lord to come again and put things right.
Apology accepted.
This is not an undisputed fact.
I think a phone call to the boys parents is in order. Offer to show them a screen shot if they have a problem believing it. I know I would want to know if my kid pulled a stunt like that.
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