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Gas is well over $3.00, AND No Uproar...Why Not?
12-27-10 | Self

Posted on 12/27/2010 4:12:54 PM PST by CincyRichieRich

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To: familyop

bttt


81 posted on 12/27/2010 9:33:18 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: The Cajun
"Sounds like a plan if the crap keeps hitting the fan any longer."

A few years from now, millions of Americans will push hard enough for the national repudiation of debt. Most government employees will be permanently released from their jobs. That's when it'll really hit the fan.


82 posted on 12/27/2010 10:03:27 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: meyer
I am in the military stationed in Bahrain. There is more oil than they know what to do with over here (in the gulf coast region). The Bahrain Dinar (BD) is pegged to the $ at $2.67 to the BD. We pay about 80 fils per liter of 87 octane gas (1000 fils per BD). That amounts to $.80 per gallon of gas. The people of Bahrain complain about the gas price because apparently it is way cheaper accross the causeway in Saudi. I had my Suburban back in the states when gas was $3.80 a gallon in 2008 and I cried every time I had to fill it. Now it costs me a little over $15 to fill my Chevy Suburban up over here. Guess who is covering the cost of cheap gas over here? You guys are! Money from the Western World is being transferred over here through the ridiculous prices Americans pay for fuel. These are the laziest people I have ever met in my life but they are rich as hell because of American consumers paying a fortune for fuel. We need to drill at home.
83 posted on 12/27/2010 10:14:50 PM PST by mrt5527
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To: familyop
Most government employees will be permanently released from their jobs.

I don't think there will be much compassion for the plight of useless bureaucrats.....Just saying.

84 posted on 12/27/2010 10:17:36 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun
"I don't think there will be much compassion for the plight of useless bureaucrats.....Just saying."

Agreed--not from me. But the government won't let its multitudes of wimmin' go without piling up many more layers of debt.


85 posted on 12/27/2010 10:57:41 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

For the same reason that hunger and homelessness ceases to be an issue when a Democrat is in the White House.


86 posted on 12/27/2010 11:45:02 PM PST by srajan
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To: sickoflibs
YesSir...$3 is 'been there done that' and not all 'that bad' when EVRYTHING else is up too...

$4 plus and many more jobs will go offline and be unaffordable to drive towards everyday...

sick plan, but effective...

87 posted on 12/28/2010 6:25:21 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Skepolitic

#1. The primary indicator for inflation is the Consumer Price Index for Urban Consumers (CPI-U), and it most definitely includes food and energy. It can be criticized for its chain-weighting system, for its basis of weighting housing costs, for its relative weighting on various components, for excluding certain taxes, and other things. BUT CPI-U INCLUDES FOOD AND ENERGY. The CPI-U is not the index that Ben Bernanke looks at when he sets Federal Reserve monetary policy. He uses CPI-U ex food and energy and the Producer Price Index for that purpose.

#2. The problem isn’t so much that oil prices or motor gasoline prices are going up. The problem is that the US$ is being, and has been, trashed. Helicopter Ben Bernanke and Lil Timmy Geitner are intentionally trashing the dollar, and prices of ALL commodities are going up. You may not like them, but you can’t blame the Saudis or the Vens for hiking oil prices as long as the priced in US$. BTW, this didn’t start with Obama. GWB appointed Helicopter Ben and the TARP bailouts began in his Administration.

#3. As India, China, and SE Asia have become more capitalist, they have become more prosperous. As they prosper, their economies demand, and can pay for, more imported crude oil, particularly from the Middle East. This increases demand, but does not significantly increase supply. (The Indians, Chinese, and Thais have made some discoveries of oil and natural gas, but not nearly enough to satisfy their growing appetites for hydrocarbons.) An elementary understanding of economics informs us that if demand curve shifts upward and the supply curve stays about the same, the price goes up.

Anyone who says that they the price of oil or motor gasoline “should be” different from the market price is expressing their ignorance of economics, the free market system, and the oil industry. Even the CEO of ExxonMobil, under oath, said he didn’t know what the price should be; he only knew what it was.


I hear you and agree with our facts, however, the facts leave out the bans on drilling, confiscation of land (ANWR), states rights, EPA rules by fiat, etc. These other facts I mention seem to be ignored by our side and go unchallenged. Why hasn’t any of our 5 Republican weenie governors on the Gulf Coast challenged the ban? We’ve been lacking refining capacity for years; we could drill our way to freedom and have the entire cracking cycle done on our shores. This is a fact.


88 posted on 12/28/2010 7:06:44 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Its Bush’s fault.

Seriously, the media is keeping it low key as it is an indication of Obama’s failed promise to make us energy independent, it refelcts negatively on the Arabs and the commodity dealers, and its a barometer of the dropping dollar and dropping economic power of the U.S. under Obama’s watch.

If a GOP President was in office, they would be screeming about their connections with the oil companies, but not a peep about Obama’s connections with BP and other oil companies and OPEc interests.


89 posted on 12/28/2010 7:21:34 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Because the media controls water cooler conversation. If they don’t talk about it, it’s not really happening.


90 posted on 12/28/2010 7:26:31 AM PST by carmody
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”YesSir...$3 is ‘been there done that’ and not all ‘that bad’ when EVRYTHING else is up too... $4 plus and many more jobs will go offline and be unaffordable to drive towards everyday...sick plan, but effective

On the bright side it makes it more expensive for the poor to follow us when we move away from them.

Wait till they try to blame Republicans again like they did in 2006.

91 posted on 12/28/2010 9:18:59 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: CincyRichieRich

No two ways about it: the watermelon environmentalists have worked tirelessly and exploited every opportunity to shut down the US oil exploration and production business, and this has had some effect on retail prices. They’re even working to shut down onshore natural gas E&P. This strongly suggests that climate change is not their real agenda; rather, the greenies just use the AGW hysteria to advance a Marxist agenda.

WRT refining, no sane investor would put a nickel in a new US refinery, especially on the West Coast. Californians voted to continue implementation of AB32, which certainly is going to reduce West Coast refining capacity. The majority of CA voters apparently want higher gasoline prices, and Sacramento is hellbent on delivering them.

Most recent investment in existing refineries has been for product environmental quality, not expansion. I cannot imagine a scenario that would cause private investment in a grassroots US refinery of any significant size, absent some completely unforeseeable, revolutionary technology development.

WRT “weenie Republican governors”, the states have no ownership rights beyond three nautical miles from shore. All the ultradeep water drilling is more than three miles out. You really shouldn’t blame them for that, but to the extent that deep water drilling is banned within the three miles, you have a point. Also, like him or not, Texas Gov Rick Perry is challenging the EPA pretty aggresively on its global warming dictates.


92 posted on 12/28/2010 9:29:17 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: MamaDearest

I paid $3.22 @ gal for premium this morning. ;)


93 posted on 12/28/2010 12:02:52 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: sickoflibs

Or $5.00

Guest Post: Former Shell Oil Chief Predicts $5 Gas by 2012

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-former-shell-oil-chief-predicts-5-gas-2012


94 posted on 12/28/2010 2:30:31 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: sickoflibs
Wait 'til it goes to $5 - we'll wish for the 'good old days' of just three dollars a gallon.
95 posted on 12/28/2010 2:43:15 PM PST by GOPJ
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