Skip to comments.Pilot Punished for Video Critical of Airport Security Comes Forward, Won't Back Down
Posted on 12/28/2010 3:34:42 PM PST by La Enchiladita
The California airline pilot punished by the Transportation Security Administration for posting videos critical of airport security has revealed his identity.
Chris Liu, who calls himself the "Patriot Pilot," says he was just trying to improve airport security when he released a recorded and posted online footage of San Francisco International Airport in which he criticized a number of procedures.
Liu had been part of a federal security program allowing him to carry a gun in the cockpit. But after he posted the video, federal agents showed up at his house Dec. 2 to confiscate his weapon and suspend his Federal Flight Deck Officer credentials.
Liu originally declined to identify himself in fear of retaliation but says hes now going public in hopes of changing major security flaws.
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This article doesn’t mention that Liu is an Army reservist and a pilot for American Airlines.
It is very common for commercial pilots to be in the military reserves.
From what I saw someone here on FR say last week, who has worked in the airline industry for years (as well as his family)....HE IS RIGHT!
These are times in which outlandish measures are taken — or not -— in order to avoid the evil of profiling, too.
Wonder where they got the authority to do that? I don't recall reading that the 2nd Amendment was repealed.
How come nobody mentions that SF opted out of TSA & has a private security company?
Where is airport operations on all of this? Are they not responsible for what the pilot is calling weaknesses?
He’s griping about doors, but I’ve never seen TSA guarding doors at any airport I’ve been to, is that not airport ops? What airline is this supposed to be? What airline does he fly for?
Good thing this is not politically motivated.
It’s per his FDO agreement, TSA took the weapon they issued him. I don’t recall anything indicating they took his personal guns.
Our Mullah Furher does not need any laws. He controls the senate, the judiciary, the military, tv and hollywood. No one dares say anything bad about our beloved mullah.
This Chris Liu guy is a hero.
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But those fu**ers managed to get my bottle of this after scanning my bag twice:
Our Gov’t is now so huge, and its rules so pervasive, that eventually, every American will run afoul of it sooner or later.
I was just telling hubby that I am sure I break at least one law or regulation at least once a day, maybe more. I have no clue what the law or regulations are anymore since there are so darn many of them.
Seek help, Frantzie. Seriously. Do it.
>> So... is he really the “Patriot Pilot,” or another wikileaker type??
Begs the question about the harm caused thus far by WikiLeaks.
|I am sure I break at least one law or regulation at least once a day
Hi there! I'm here to remind you that every time you throw out a battery, you must encase it in lead no thinner than 3/4", wrap the lead in a plastic bag, wash the plastic bag with distilled water at a temperature of no less than 180 degrees, sprinkle dessicated chicken feathers on it, and take it to a hazardous waste dump escorted by at least four emergency vehicles with blaring sirens.
As for those compact fluorescent bulbs... if you break one of those you might as well abandon your dwelling.
Or the 4th Amendment.
And that is the point. You will notice that there is very little enforcement of all of these "rules", "regulations", and "laws". The folks in power just want to make sure that every citizen is "guilty" of something. It's easier to control a person when you can use the law to ruin that persons life.
People really have no clue as to how much of a sitting duck they are on those airplanes. The US Postal Service throws bags of unchecked mail right into the belly of many of those planes. Lots of Cargo by known shippers is also not checked and just loaded into the belly of the plane.
I accidentally went through Raleigh/Durham with a full 12 oz bottle of rubbing alcohol in my carryon. They didn’t see it. I nearly cr@pped myself when I opened my travel kit at my destination.
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with."
('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)
Have yet to see anything leaked that was not already known or could be easily discovered. A Reichstag fire without the smoking gun. Beck thinks they will use the leaking to grab control of the new media. A slightly more refined approach then their hero Hugo Chavez utilized. Of course Beck has been a little bit paranoid lately, but his paranoia seems to be well founded.
>> Have yet to see anything leaked that was not already known or could be easily discovered.
I agree but only in speculation. The only concern I had was the potential for retaliation against innocent folks or groups.
You will now be accosted, assailed and vilified, a score of times or more, beginning in just a few seconds: 10..9..8..7..6..
LOL! Wouldn't be the first time.
The average American commits not just one, but THREE felonies per day, without knowing anything. There is a book about it, here’s a link (hope that’s not inappropriate).
Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent
Harvey A. Silverglate
Do not think the leakers care about the innocent. They are expendables. With the corrupt government we currently have, there should be lots of real juice out there. The kind that causes government officials to immediately resign in disgrace. We have not seen one resignation that I recall, as of yet. Been busy however and have not kept up with all the news this month. Yes, they have called for Hillary to resign, but that is exactly what Obama wants. Hillary out of the way. At any rate, back to the airline pilot thread.
Thank you, Jaz. I didn't read the full article.
“As for those compact fluorescent bulbs... if you break one of those you might as well abandon your dwelling.”
Maybe someone should break one in the senate and house chambers! I wonder what would happen?
How'd you know he was at the airport?
Let’s just say I took the hint from his nickname.
Yours on the other hand...you still at the library at this hour?
I have not read Mr. Silvergate’s book. I took advantage of the link to Amazon and read the synopsis. I do not believe that the average American commits three felonies a day.
Break an old-fashioned fever thermometer instead. 20 to 30 times the amount of mercury.
I broke at least two of those as a child. That's equivalent to 40 to 60 CFLs.
Isn’t that the truth! Our retired chief of police told me over a beer one day that he could follow me down the street for a few blocks and see me do something for which I could be stopped, and I haven’t had a ticket in 20 years.
But, isn’t it also true that to become an FDO, he had to get a security clearance which is why he can’t do what he did?
I’m not entirely clear on what the security holes are that this guy exposed. I saw some doors he claimed went to the flight deck, a friend of mine in aviation said at least one he saw went to the employee break room instead.
Is it the responsiblity of TSA or airport ops to monitor everything the pilot pointed out?
This guy doesn’t feel right to me, personally. Let’s wait & see what he does with his 15 mins & book deal. Call it woman’s intuition.
That's exactly the point he's trying to make.
TSA's handling of passengers is a mirage.
The more dangerous security weak points are ignored, specifically tarmac access.
Don’t know about your airport, but in mine the workers do go thru screening, at least the ones who are inside the terminal.
As for the mechianics, etc outside, that I don’t know & strikes me as a big potential problem. How do we know that at LAX, “Jose” the mechanic is not actually Mohammed the jihadi?
I just question this pilot’s motives & accuracy. More so now that I’ve seen him on TV.
Again, I must ask. Isn’t this the responsiblity of airport ops?
Thanks for stopping by. In my airlines training as a CSA, it was drummed into us that airport security was all of our responsibility to monitor. E.G., you constantly "badge" everyone you see in secure areas, NO ONE is allowed to "piggyback" through a secure door, etc.
I think you’re right to be sceptical, and that is why I posed my original question at top.
I sense some over-eagerness in his self-promotion and am especially concerned that he did this “whistle-blowing” even though he had been given the additional trust of carrying a firearm.
The real problem with all the kerfuffle re airport security, pat-downs, etc., is the unspoken taboo against profiling.
This has long been a problem. As you will recall, the ramp agents in Miami found to be smuggling drugs via their access.
“So... is he really the “Patriot Pilot,” or another wikileaker type??”
Put it this way - if Assange were to reveal all about TSA, America would first laugh and then reach for the torches and pitchforks.
Oleg Volk summed up TSA as follows:
TSA - FAST FOOD REJECTS, WITH POLICE POWERS.
I suggest not letting the Bull Dyke distract you from the Regime’s imposition of raw, unadulterated socialism in many parts of America.
Call your CongressCritters regularly.
Email them incessantly.
Insist they put government back into the limits defined in the Constitution.