Posted on 12/29/2010 3:32:59 AM PST by Scanian
There, fixed it. 'Liberal Christians', you say? Perhaps they can explain how it is that Jesus and His disciples got by without having health care.
I have all the land I need but I need compensated for monies taken and the coming hyper-inflation.
Government paper will have no value so I demand hard assets. Governments hold far too much of the nations land and other resources as it is. This is our chance to get it back for "We The People."
I agree. I was speaking to my brother over the holidays. He works for the Justice Dept(prisons). He was stating that the govt. was talking about freezing their pay for the next couple years. He was whining that his bills were not going to change. He thought there was plenty of room to cut the defense budget though. I did not want to get in a fight. However, I thought of how my income has gone down 40% between 2008 $ 2009 and he was complaining because his income was going to not go up its normal 4-6%.
It is easy to cut the “other guys” budget. It is a lot more difficult to cut your own. The fact is the govts. state and local need to cut spending and raise taxes. The problem is if they raise taxes the politicians will just spend it to buy votes.
I will take the Presidio. Seriously, that former army base has to be the most valuble piece of real estate the govt. owns. It starts at Giradelli Sqaure and runs past the Golden Gate Bridge. It must be worth billions.
They are all useless because arguing with a liberal is like arguing with a 2 year old.
They're just going to throw a tantrum.
That has been Rush’s theory for the most part but I think the maturation level of the person and native lack of logic has a lot to do with it.
I wonder how many libs are to be found in a strong engineering school?
I really haven’t heard Rush expound on that theory so much,
but it is one of the core concepts of Sowell’s “intellectuals and society”.
Also, theologically, it is based on the pernicious lie that “people are basically good”, which denies the Biblical description of the Creation and Fall, and has assumptions in evolutionary “molecules to man” beliefs.
After that, it's drool time.
Bump...
Do you think it will happen?
I don’t think our government thinks that the money taken from our pay is a loan to them. It’s more like they allow us to keep a certain percentage of our pay out of their generosity.
That’s why they see tax cuts as a cost to government.
Oh yes, Man’s heart is a deceiver and desperately wicked!
Think about it. If all these resources were given to the rightful owners (WTP) and we were allowed to plant crops, harvest trees, mine minerals, extract oil, coal and natural gas as is our right, do you suppose the economy might improve?
Can I have the Escalante National Monument?
Are we talking joint ownership or selling to the highest bidder if they are a US citizen? Redistributing the land equally?
Do corporations still get to bid or own land?
Those are great!
A few of my favorites:
• If cutting out the middleman lowers the price, why are we paying the government to stand between us and the markets?
• Why do those who object to tampering with the environment approve of tampering with the economy? Isn’t the economy also a fragile ecosystem where a sudden change can trigger a devastating chain reaction?
• Isn’t the latest economic crisis such a chain reaction?
• If economic ups and downs are natural cycles, why is the downturn always blamed on unbridled capitalism, but the upturn is the result of a wise leadership of a Democrat president?
• And finally, if all opinions are equal, how come a liberal who disagrees with a conservative is open-minded, but a conservative who disagrees with a liberal is a bigot?
These rulings will serve as guides for governmental bankruptcies in general. The government may chose to sell lands to corporations or individuals and use the proceeds to pay their debts but while they owe me money I will not let them default and keep their assets.
I am serious about wanting just compensation for monies taken by a failed corporation, the Social Security Administration. The baby boom generation is owed a considerable debt and as such has a lien on federal holdings.
One can’t “get thru” to a Liberal Methodist Minister! For that reason we left the Methodist Church over 40 years ago. It was a sad day, but no longer could we tolerate our children’s minds being filled with “Social Dotrine” and that’s what it had come down to in their Sunday School Classes!
I grew up in the Methodist church (my parents were both Sunday School teachers)...but, as you say, it seems the socialists have taken over.
Too bad.
Well, my husband is 67. He didn’t intend to sign up for SS until he would be 70. The woman at the SS office told him he was crazy, because he’d be lucky to live to be 70 and would lose X amount of dollars if he didn’t sign up to draw at 66. So, he signed up. My part of it is very little, because I worked for 30 yrs. in his (our) business and didn’t work much for outside companies. - I don’t like drawing a dime of SS; but we did pay in, assuming in earlier days that Al Gore was putting it in a LOCKBOX for us! Ha! Husband paid the highest amount allowable into SS for years. We suckers! Gotta laugh, though it isn’t funny. It looks like a Ponzi scheme. - We do some online selling and husband still works a lot, although he is about burned out - but, the attorney he has worked with for years isn’t ready to retire, and he won’t let him off the hook. It’s some income and we get to keep on paying taxes to help bankroll Michelle’s trips to Spain and for the after dinner mints at their parties. Ha Ha! - I don’t have as much work as I used to in the business, and actually I sort of miss feeling like I’m pulling my own weight. - Maybe I can get a job as a Walmart greeter if my legs will hold me up for 8 hrs. a day on those concrete floors without collapsing into a scowling heap - or maybe I can make something to sell online. It’s an adventure. :o)
You and your husband shouldn’t feel the slightest bit guilty about drawing SS. It’s easy for young FReepers to say SS should be eliminated, but they haven’t paid into it for 40-50 years. I say there’s plenty of government largess to be cut elsewhere, and government needs to follow through on its obligations to the elderly. That doesn’t mean we can’t reform SS to give people other options, like private retirement savings accounts, a tax free, lump sum payout, or an opt out option.
The lump sum at retirement is an excellent option, btw, because it could be a much smaller amount than what the government would generally pay over time. In other words, it could be designed to free up the government’s obligation to the participant at a lower rate than what would likely be otherwise paid. The participant would have an incentive to take the lump sum as they would own the money outright, no strings attached, and be able to give it as inheritance.
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