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New edition removes Mark Twain's 'offensive' words (PC Barf Alert)
Fox News ^ | 1/4/2011

Posted on 01/04/2011 7:18:59 PM PST by markomalley

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To: Xenalyte
It’s not a tough call at all. It’s censorship, is what it is.

Agreed.

I like to watch RTV, the Retro TV channel where they play old TV shows. One of my favcorite old shows is, "The Bold Ones" (1969/74) where it features various stories divided into "The Doctors" who are on the cutting edge of medicine, "The Lawyers," "The Police" and "The Senator." One lawyer episode featured the law group where Burl Ives, Joe Campenella and James Farentino play lawyers who take tough cases. One case featured a young Black radical (this was 1970) where he was charged with killing a police detective who was part of a raid on the Black Pantherlike Headquarters. In reality, it was his father how accidently pushed the detective off the fire escape to his death while trying to warn his son about the raid. His father was a successful executive with a company. The son knew this but wanted to cover his father. The lawyers were trying to get him to tell the truth but he still wanted to protect his father. They went to trial and the young radical said to the judge and court several times about keeping the "'n-words' down" and he said the word out loud and all the way. He was eventually held in contempt and gagged. Later on, his father committed suicide be driving off the road but he left a note behind telling the truth and the young man was acquitted.

I'm also reminded of another TV show, "Star Trek," where Kirk & Co. encountered President Lincoln, actually an alien made likeness but he had no malice, for all purposes, he was Lincoln with his thoughts and actions. The beamed President Lincoln aboard the Enterprise and they gave him a tour where he saw Uhura on the bridge and he called her a "lovely nigress" and then apologized. Uhura did not take offense, "in the 23rd Century, we learned not to fear words."

I don't think any slurs should be tossed willy nilly or anything, but if it is part of the story where it sets the scene and is a part of it, I have no problem. Huck Finn was set 150+ years ago. "The Bold Ones" in 1970. I seem to think back that Michael Savage said, "your father in 1970 did not make as much money as you do but he was more free." It seems that it is true, what we can do in 1850/1966/1970, we cannot do in 2010/11.

Come to think of it, I doubt shows like "Chico and the Man" and "All in the Family" would not fly in today's PC crowd.
21 posted on 01/04/2011 8:24:22 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: ixtl
Don’t mean to criticize, but it was Injun’ JOE, not Jim. It was Nigger Jim.... (Oh my God, I did it! I used the “N” word! I am such a bad person, now I will probably go to Hell for my insensitivity.

Uh OH. I used "Nigress" in one post, I guess I'll be "darned to Heck, suburb of Hell by the Prince of Insufficient Light." B-)
22 posted on 01/04/2011 8:28:01 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: markomalley
...and another thing, the grammar in those books is horrible. They should be edited to correct all of the improper English.

</sarc>

23 posted on 01/04/2011 8:29:19 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: Nowhere Man

It’s also a pain in the ass for historians.

Leave the bloody work alone. It helps us to know what the originals said.


24 posted on 01/04/2011 8:31:07 PM PST by BenKenobi (Rush speaks! I hear, I obey)
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To: markomalley
replacing the N-word with "slave"

Slave please!!!

25 posted on 01/04/2011 8:32:49 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: markomalley

Why change it to slave, and not Nagin?

Nagin please!


26 posted on 01/04/2011 8:53:00 PM PST by Jazz1968
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To: markomalley; Clintonfatigued; Xenalyte; DBrow; ThunderSleeps; Figment; vaudine

When I read The Life and Times of Fredrick Douglas, one passage about speaking to a group of his supporters has always stayed with me. After speaking to a group of abolitionists, he considered the evening a great success, because at the end of his talk he believed they were convinced he was equally human with them. Those who saw the TV show Roots can remember the president of the black college being asked to sing by his benefactor to convince the woman she was with about how valuable these people were because of their wonderful voices. Even the strongest supporters of blacks questioned whether they were as fully human as themselves.

Now comes Mark Twain in1876, just a few years after the decline of the KKK, saying that even “poor white trash” like Huck Finn can figure out that “Nigger Jim” is just like him. Twain washes away the entire pretense built up from etiquette, education, wealth, etc. that people generally use to form their opinions of themselves and others. Because of his precise choice of words, what remains on that raft is two people who can look directly into each others’ eye.

In his final indictment Twain through Huck Finn tells the reader that the accoutrements of civilization prevent one from being human and recognizing the humanity in others. I guess I find that lesson timeless.


27 posted on 01/04/2011 8:55:09 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Xenalyte

Censorship requires a government banning something. This is just a rewrite by a private company. You still have the opportunity to buy or check out the original text.

While I would probably lean toward the original text, there are some books by Twain where he goes overboard with dialectic gibberish. Make it unreadable.


28 posted on 01/04/2011 9:08:07 PM PST by 1L
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To: Xenalyte

I hear these words and much worse among the celebrity of rappers and black comedians. This is called “diversity”
it’s oh so chi-chi.

Speech police applies only to conservatives.


29 posted on 01/04/2011 9:16:22 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: markomalley

“Mark Twain wrote that “the difference between the almost right word and the right word is really a large matter.””

That’s not what he said - that would have hardly been memorable. Here’s what he said.

“The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.”


30 posted on 01/04/2011 9:20:54 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Clintonfatigued; Retain Mike
This is a tough call.

I don't think it's a tough call at all. The book should be presented the way Mark Twain wrote it, not in some watered-down politically correct form. Mark Twain was one of the most enlightened people of his era, and as Retain Mike noted:

Now comes Mark Twain in 1876, just a few years after the decline of the KKK, saying that even “poor white trash” like Huck Finn can figure out that “Nigger Jim” is just like him. Twain washes away the entire pretense built up from etiquette, education, wealth, etc. that people generally use to form their opinions of themselves and others. Because of [Twain's] precise choice of words, what remains on that raft is two people who can look directly into each others’ eye.

In his final indictment Twain through Huck Finn tells the reader that the accoutrements of civilization prevent one from being human and recognizing the humanity in others. I guess I find that lesson timeless.

Mark Twain fiercely opposed censorship. In light of the totality of what we know about him as an individual, both the facts and nuance mitigate strongly against censorship of Twain's works.

It borders on the absurd, in my book...

31 posted on 01/04/2011 9:26:45 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: muawiyah
There's no tough call here at all. Slaveowners were disgusting people. They spoke in a disgusting manner.

I guess that means virtually the whole country was disgusting, since they all used that word for blacks. That's what it means—black, coming from the Latin niger, by way of various Romance languages. Usage changes with time and fashion, and reading books in their original words, such as Chaucer, Milton, and Shakespeare, is one way schoolkids learn this.

Twain's usage—and note that he was a big liberal—is not a reason to put Wite-Out over literary history. Look at the barbed humor kids would miss, from Tom Sawyer: Here Tom is describing a horrific steam boiler explosion he witnessed. AUNT POLLY: Was anyone hurt? TOM: No ma'am. Killed a n______. What are the kids supposed to do when they read any other books published more than 5 minutes ago, and discover how the polite word for blacks has changed frantically just about every decade for a half-century? Just in my lifetime: colored, Negro, Afro-American, black, African American . . .

32 posted on 01/04/2011 9:31:58 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: markomalley
I'm pretty sure there's a big difference between "N" and slave. Instead of slave why don't they use "prisoner" instead.

What I find funny is that the blacks are erasing their own history. They are too blind to see what their ancestors have overcome. Words offend them now. What sissies. They are changing a white man's words. Blacks have more power now than they ever had before. What in the blazes are they whining about now?

33 posted on 01/04/2011 9:53:37 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: markomalley

On my recent cruise in the Med, I visited the new library of Alexandria in Egypt. Amazing place. They have a monthly essay contest on classic books. Found it interesting that September’s was Huck Finn! So much commentary, so little time.


34 posted on 01/04/2011 10:28:03 PM PST by Shark24
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To: Shark24

First we get rid of offending words, like the forbidden N-Word, then we get rid of the offending words like Republican and Sarah Palin, and maybe Christ. Its a slippery slope that can only end in Tyranny for all.


35 posted on 01/04/2011 10:40:03 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: loboinok

In Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina and many other states down there, it was certainly a black and white issue. If that were not the case, then blacks would not have left in droves to go to the safety of the North.


36 posted on 01/04/2011 10:43:26 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Clintonfatigued

In Orwell’s novel 1984, Winston Smith had an acquaintance named Syme. He was an employee at the Ministry of Truth, in the Newspeak section. His specialty was destroying words with the objective of completely replacing Oldspeak, or standard English, with Newspeak by 2050. He did this by editing out the Oldspeak words from the texts of literature as well current publications.

Unfortunately, Syme became an unperson. He was replaced by Alan Gribben.


37 posted on 01/04/2011 11:12:33 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: muawiyah
There's no tough call here at all. Slaveowners were disgusting people. They spoke in a disgusting manner. They served a disgusting purpose. They did disgusting things. All of that has to be brought over in that book. Eliminating it is to make the slaveowners look like nice guys.

If the great evils are demonized, how are Leftists supposed to relive them without resistance?

38 posted on 01/04/2011 11:32:01 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: markomalley; Figment

It’s an insult to be expected to read literature where offensive epithets are removed to protect the reader’s sensibilities. If there are people who are lame brained enough to need this kind of protection, they would be watching situation comedies on TV instead of reading books.


39 posted on 01/05/2011 12:22:30 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: markomalley

It creates confusion too. Twain sometimes used the word “slave.” Now one can’t tell where that happened. Also in that era, free Negros were sometimes called n*ggers because of the racial biases of the time. I think many a Negro of that time would turn over in his grave at this new lack of candidness about his situation. To forget history is to be doomed to repeat it.


40 posted on 01/05/2011 12:38:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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