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Witnesses: (Former presidential advisor)John Wheeler Appeared Disoriented (before death)
myfoxphilly.com ^ | 1/5/11

Posted on 01/05/2011 6:06:52 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta

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To: MarkLevinFan

Would you consider that an incendiary device? I don’t really know, but when I first heard it I thought of something more like a molotov cocktail.


141 posted on 01/05/2011 11:36:01 AM PST by brytlea
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To: Albion Wilde; Dr. Scarpetta
Weird.

Here's a link to still shots from the surveillance video showing Wheeler walking around holding his shoe...


142 posted on 01/05/2011 11:36:12 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: brytlea
Would you consider that an incendiary device?

Apparently, the police do.

143 posted on 01/05/2011 11:37:36 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan

Technically I would say yes it is, I guess it could cause a fire, but would the intent likely be to start a fire? I’m just wondering, why would someone likely do that? It actually just seems like a stupid thing to do. Maybe he had some sort of psychotic break.


144 posted on 01/05/2011 11:41:05 AM PST by brytlea
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To: brytlea

There are so many unanswered questions. It’s interesting how facts are trickling out. I’m sure this mystery will be solved soon.


145 posted on 01/05/2011 11:45:42 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: Ditto
Thank You for that link of sudden onset dellerium. It explains many of my postings right here on FR.

I plan on using it in any future legal defense in which I need to explain myself regarding any federal, state, or municipal complaint/s.

I love the sudden onset aspect as well as the recovery or relief of symptoms. Most predictable however would be the pharmacology of many cases, that being from drug use gone bad. That too would explain many of my postings right here on FR.

146 posted on 01/05/2011 11:49:38 AM PST by blackdog
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To: cricket

Good questions and concerns.

Fox has just reported that he had a problem with his neighbors whose house size was detrimental to his ‘view’. There was speculation that Wheeler had planted an incendiary device.

Perhaps some, or all, of this is true and he was both stressed out and remorseful of his own appalling actions. If he suffered from any form of dementia or early onset Alzheimers - I believe your assessment of his searching for his briefcase in the dumpster seems rational; or that he was urinating or decided to sit in the dumpster to get warm. Then he fell asleep and the dumpster was lifted up causing a fatal injury. Sometimes thing aren’t what they seem. Including murder.’


147 posted on 01/05/2011 11:57:27 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: blackdog

A TIA often called a mini-stroke will produce results like this. My mother had an event like this in her eighties. She dropped my dad off at the front entrance to the hospital and then proceded to get disoriented in the parking garage and ended up in the ER but was able to get straightened out in a few hours.


148 posted on 01/05/2011 12:00:08 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: MarkLevinFan

I hope so. But sometimes these things sort of fizzle and there is never a very believeable resolution. I hope for his families sake tho, he didn’t do something stupid.


149 posted on 01/05/2011 12:00:37 PM PST by brytlea
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To: sodpoodle

While I agree, the police from the beginning have said homicide. I think they generally tend toward not homicide, so it would appear there was something about his injuries that looked more like murder. But, of course, we have to wait until they tell us something.
Still, perhaps, a mugging, hit on the head, etc etc. THAT could fit the rest of it, AND would look like (and in fact be) homicide.


150 posted on 01/05/2011 12:05:53 PM PST by brytlea
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To: KC Burke
Most often caused by plaquing of arteries and in diabetics tiny plaques break loose, passing thru areas of the brain like vascular ping pong in the plumbing. Yes, I am quite familiar with those.

I had a severe head injury in the late 70's and I spent six weeks on IV Dilantin every four hours. Hell on your veins. An entire summer spent in ICU and then regular care. The stories of my behavior right after the accident and subsequent weeks was pretty bizare. I remember very little of it except the awful pain of dilantin pushes. It's like battery acid in your veins.

Walking around with one shoe and looking for your car is pretty good if you have a head injury. I thought I was eating ice cream and watching Annie Hall for a whole month.

151 posted on 01/05/2011 12:09:21 PM PST by blackdog
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To: IYAS9YAS
And yet, not one other species of animal, nor any humans, have shown any symptoms of this accidental poisoning.

Shhh, it was genetic specific.

152 posted on 01/05/2011 12:12:20 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Gasshog
they have proclaimed May 21, 2011 as the day the World will end and are giving up everything in preparing to meet their God. The memo I got was 12/21/12. Hey, if they gave me all their stuff, I can party hardy for another year and a half!
153 posted on 01/05/2011 12:15:33 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: TheBigIf; Dr. Scarpetta; LucyT

Is this your reality source???

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sorchafaaldisinfo15mar08.shtml


154 posted on 01/05/2011 12:19:40 PM PST by danamco (')
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To: danamco

I have tried to explain multiple time throughout this thread that I simply received this in an e-mail this morning. That I have no knowledge of the source. I do not subscribe to any source that writes this stuff nor do I know who this SF person is. I also have explained that I do not agree in any way with the e-mail and that I posted it here just to share and show what is ‘out there’. I had no agenda. I also thought that it would be obvious to most to be a ‘conspiracy’ type writing that is basically nonsense. So your answer is NO, it is not my reality source.

I guess I could expect to continue to get these questions aimed at me now all day today?


155 posted on 01/05/2011 12:30:30 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: blackdog
LOL. Ya. That sudden brain freeze thing most often happens to me right in the middle of my back swing. I think I should qualify for some Mulligans under the ADA. ;~))
156 posted on 01/05/2011 12:31:35 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
(I posted this on another open thread by mistake. It's not spam, I'm just reposting here where I originally intended to.)

Here's my theory FWIW, based on known facts to date... Wheeler was targeted by someone - not a hit man or street thug because they would be more likely to hit & run. Possibly someone who wanted Wheeler dead because he had "the goods" on them and threatened to go public. They (or someone acting on their behalf) attacked Wheeler, stealing his briefcase and possibly trying to kill him then.

If Wheeler was knocked down during the attack, he would have had easy access to his shoe which he may have used to fend off his attacker - pretty aggressively it would seem since the garage attendant said the shoe was broken. Although the attendant said Wheeler showed no signs of physical injury, he could have suffered a concussion during the attack which can cause amnesia and confusion.

That would account for his disoriented search for the few things he remembered - his car, his hotel and Wilmington. Whoever botched the first attempt probably tracked Wheeler down later and finished him off, then dumped his body in the dumpster to escape detection.

157 posted on 01/05/2011 12:41:40 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: Hotlanta Mike
And just happened to wander into a landfill and die

I think he was discovered after being dumped there by a dump truck. His body was most likely in a dumpster (either voluntarily if he climbed in to escape the cold or mugged and thrown into it) Dumpster trucks just back up to them with their forks, lift them up and dump them into the truck. Those truck drivers don't even see the contents of the dumpsters until they empty their loads at the land fills.......

158 posted on 01/05/2011 12:53:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: brytlea; TheBigIf

No problem; I’ve run into Sorcha Faal stuff elsewhere and learned what it is already.

Kind of like an ultra thousands of times concentrate of Alex Jones. And then some.


159 posted on 01/05/2011 1:03:45 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: sodpoodle
. . .or that he was urinating or decided to sit in the dumpster to get warm.

Yes, another plausible consideration given his 'implausible' state of mind/body. It must be haunting to have to keep going back; and knowing he was close to help (Security) but not close enough nor long enough./sigh

Do hope he was not killed, however by 'trash compacting' apparatus. Hope he was 'gone' - by whatever means - before that possibility.

Do wonder if they will ever get the facts straight; or if we know the difference; if they do not.

160 posted on 01/05/2011 1:05:43 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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