Posted on 01/09/2011 7:24:01 AM PST by KeyLargo
Giffords Shooter Jared Loughner Used a Glock 19 Posted on January 8, 2011 by Robert Farago
The Washington Post is reporting that TTAG’s Brad Kozak was right to say the media was wrong when they rushed to report that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shooter Jared Loughner used an “automatic rifle” to carry-out his heinous crime. As Brad and I discussed, mortality is limited when you spray a large group of people with a full-auto rifle. Accuracy is difficult as people tend to hit the deck pretty damn quick. Look at the often amazing lack of lethality of drive-by shootings. Loughner had to have aimed pretty carefully to have shot 16 people (five murdered and 11 injured). That said, almost all the reports from the scene claim Loughner was “firing indiscriminately” . . .
The Post reports that Loughner used a Glock 19, originally claiming that the weapon had “an extended clip.” [The above image is from Loughner's Facebook page, deleted within minutes of the attack.]
The Glock 19 has a standard 15-round magazine. CNN reports that 18 people were shot. Either every one of Loughner’s bullets found a target (some more than one), the perp reloaded or he did indeed have a large capacity magazine. Glock sells magazines that hold 19 or 33 rounds, which are banned in some states (as is the gun).
In any case, it’s clear that Loughner was no stranger to guns.
“He was also very close.”
It is not hard to hit a large number of people if you are firing rapidly into a packed crowd. A full metal jacketed 9mm bullets could wound three or people if they were all in the line of fire. It is quite possible that he did the damage using one standard capacity magazine.
Yes I get your question that you have posted multiple times.
I do not personally know of any such ban since I only posted the article for discussion and I am a proud NRA member.
However since you ‘facedown’ are so concerned and may have your undies all bunched up over this I would strongly suggest that you contact the author of the article Mr. Robert Farago to explain what he wrote.
About Robert Farago
“Robert Farago is the Publisher and Managing Editor of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun (yes fun) of guns. “
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PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!! LOL
That mag that holds 33 rounds was made for the Glock 18, and will fit other 9mm Glocks, and it does extend quite a bit out, and it can be legally bought in some states.
glock 19 banned
glock 19 banned in ca
glock 19 banned in california
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ALL had THIS page on the results.
Couldn't find ANY states banning Glock 19 or any other, or any state currently banning high capacity magazines any more. Said CA expired in 2004.
"In which of the 57 states are Glocks banned?"
According to the Glock website, they don't make a 10-round magazine for the Glock 19, so it would be prohibited for purchase in states that restrict capacity to 10 rounds by the hoi polloi (non-LEO). They do make a 15 round magazine, so a Glock 19 could be legal here in the People's Republic of New Jersey.
Once again pointing out yet another FAILED FedGov bit of idiocy that shouldn't exist.
Folks need to cool their jets - everything I've read points to this being a nutbar who, because of misguided law enforcement/judicial policies, managed to have his criminal tendencies off the record so that he had no problem passing a Brady check. That is where the focus should be, but the MSM has their own axe to grind - we should not join then in grinding ours as well, and should stick to the facts as we know them.
We know the bullet that injured Giffords passed through her head. Shots to the body of others could have passed through and hit a second person.
And the perp ran when it was done. I'm inclined to think he had one mag, emptied it at close range in a restricted space where no one could escape, and then ran when it was done - to be tackled (kudos to those brave persons who had no idea if he had another weapon).
I never realized “journalism” was dead in this country until this weekend. I knew it was bad, but this reporting was shoddy and very second rate.
They are interviewing a person who was there and helped hold the perp down after he was tackled. He said the perp was trying to load a second mag but ran at that point. Doesn’t sound like an expert. He says it was a semiauto with an extended clip, says 15-20 shots were fired. Sounds like the standard 15 round clip mentioned above.
Just a note , but ,as of 1/1/11 you can’t buy ammo mail order in Californicateia.
“I never realized “journalism” was dead in this country until this weekend. I knew it was bad, but this reporting was shoddy and very second rate.”
Yes.
The so-called ‘experts’ and pundits will have a field day on the Sunday talking head shows.
As has been said. “if it bleeds it leads.”
These seem to be legal in Calif. They update the list every year .
http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/safeguns_resp.asp
This may not be a complete list, but CA, NY, MA, NJ, MD, HI, OH and parts of IL have magazine capacity limits. New Jersey is 15, Ohio is 30 and Maryland is 20. Illinois "depends". I realize this is as stupid as banning bayonet lugs, but that's the laws.
Nothing there about owning a large cap magazine, its my understanding its just illegal to use one. . . Someone correct me if Im wrong
The 10-round magazine for the Glock 26 won’t work in the Glock 19. The magazine is too short.
Glock does make (or used to make) 10-round magazines for the Glock 19. They are the same length as a regular magazine, but some of the internal space is filled so it will only hold ten. These magazines are available at glockworld.com (and other outlets).
The State safety tests the pistols and some gun manufacturers have gotten fed up with the red tape and don't sell certain models here. Of course, we all know that was the plan all along.
You can get Glocks here, but you can only have a 10 round magazine. 10 + 1 chambered = 11.
I have a little 9 MM, but I'm more of a Revolver kind of guy. Love my S & W Model 29. If I can't hit it with 6 shots, I should just pack it up and go home.
Unusual for a press report, it actually referred to them as "magazines" and not as "clips" or "the doohickeys that hold the bullets."
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