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To: tired_old_conservative
Obama believes he has already provided proof that he is eligible for the Presidency.
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It really is simple!

If it is sooooooooo clear that Obama is a natural born citizen then where is **all** of the **best** evidence that would prove or disprove his natural born status?

Obama does NOT release it because he can NOT. It either doesn't exist and/or its absence or existence would be the cause for criminal prosecution and removal from the White House.

Again. It really is that simple!

If Obama believes that he has proven his natural born status, he is delusional. An Internet copy of a COLB and questionable Internet postings of newspaper announcements is certainly not the **best** or **all** of the evidence. Evidence like this won't even get you a driver's license or on the Little League here in my state.

57 posted on 01/10/2011 4:16:27 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime
Actually, a COLB will get you a driver's license, depending on the state. Can even get you a passport, again, depending on the state.

But your hyperbole refuses to acknowledge the point. If Obama did authorize his campaign to get that COLB from Hawaii, he knows it's legitimate. He knows the information Hawaii has is legitimate. He put it on a website simply as a courtesy, since he's not obliged to prove anything to you.

Now, if that is true, why would he consider you anything but either a nut or someone who's so emotionally invested in his not being legitimate that you'd imagine something wrong with any information he provided? Why, then, would he waste any time on you?

59 posted on 01/10/2011 4:27:29 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: wintertime; tired_old_conservative
Evidence like this won't even get you a driver's license or on the Little League here in my state.

What state is that? I have used a certified copy of my birth certificate, virtually identical to the Obama COLB (except that it was issued by Kentucky, not Hawaii), to:

Get a driver's license in three different states (OH, NC, and TX).
Apply to and attend the United States Military Academy.
Receive Top Secret security clearance.
Get a passport.
Apply to and be admitted to the Texas State Bar.

In none of those instances did the respective government agency quibble over the fact that I did not provide an original "long form" birth certificate. Whoever did the SSBI for my Top Secret clearance independently verified my citizenship with Kentucky, but they were required to do that regardless of what form of birth certificate I submitted.

If you can actually point out an instance where a "long form" birth certificate is legally required to prove citizenship and where a certified copy like the Obama COLB is not also sufficient, I'd be interested to hear it.

The fact is that the COLB is prima facie evidence of the fact of Obama's birth in Hawaii in every jurisdiction in America. That means that, if this issue is tried in any court in America, he has no need to provide any "better" evidence of that fact unless his opponents offer competent and credible evidence to rebut it. And, no, simply complaining that he could provide better evidence but hasn't is not going to cut it.
85 posted on 01/11/2011 8:57:49 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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