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HMS Nightclub: Pride of the Fleet may become a Chinese disco
The Daily Mail, UK ^ | 8th January 2011

Posted on 01/10/2011 10:51:21 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The question is whether countries like India and Japan have enough manpower to effectively utilise ships of the Nimitz/Kennedy class. There’s a reason why only the USN builds such ships. The Russian Admiral Kuznetsov, which is the largest non-US carrier has a complement of about 2000, which is less than half the number of men found on a Nimitz class ship.

Then of course there’s the need for plenty of escort and replenishment vessels. You can’t build and deploy those within a short period.


21 posted on 01/10/2011 11:39:06 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I went on board the Invincible in the late ‘90s. The O club on that ship was spectacular.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 11:39:25 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

“Yep. And I was told they (Japan) have some prior experience with Naval Aviation.”

They do, but they crashed a lot of planes.


23 posted on 01/10/2011 11:40:18 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Oh, yes, and something the Japanese didn’t have, and cost them plenty, very, very competent damage control.”

That’s the Achilles Heel for a ChiCom fleet is damage control. They’re unable to compose damage control strategies because such things are considered ‘defeatist’, ‘counter-revolutionary’, and they’re also considered a recognition of foreign military superiority. Very short political and military careers are in store for Chinese who advance the ideas of damage control.


24 posted on 01/10/2011 11:41:28 AM PST by MeganC (Jared Loughner - registered Democrat)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

If it weren’t for the Falklands war, the Invincible would now be flying an Australian flag.

http://www.harrier.org.uk/history/history_SHARdownunder.htm


25 posted on 01/10/2011 11:41:43 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: stuartcr

Sorry, it was the late ‘70s or early ‘80s.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 11:43:35 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

And England itself is going to turn itself into a Disney Theme-Park: Come visit England-Land!

Thanks Labour!


27 posted on 01/10/2011 11:45:12 AM PST by PGR88
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To: MeganC

And how exactly can we be sure that the Chinese aren’t focussing on damage control and increased safety??? That was probably the case till probably during the Cultural revolution and most older Chinese ships and it is evident in the safety record of some of their obsolete subs.

It doesn’t take much common sense to think they would employ standard safety measures on all their new ships. For the simple reason that they are damn expensive. If they were still obsessed with revolutionary warfare, they wouldn’t be streamlining their infantry.


28 posted on 01/10/2011 11:47:05 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: paladin1_dcs
And I’m sure that the PLA wouldn’t mind taking a look at the design of this ship to assist their own Carrier program. There may not be any direct military use left in the ship, but the very layout of the ship could give clues that would prove beneficial to a nation with no carrier experience at all.

Bingo!

29 posted on 01/10/2011 12:11:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: brownsfan

How much you wanna bet that the Japanese already have some basic plans for a carrier. And pilots have already made simulated flights. The Japanese are still far ahead of the Chinese in terms of technology, and it would not surprise me about how fast the Japanese get back up to speed.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 12:21:08 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: agere_contra

Yea, right, and the Russian carrier that’s just getting ready for sea trials, was going to be a floating casino.

Huh, huh..... Sure.


31 posted on 01/10/2011 12:23:16 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: paladin1_dcs

Agreed


32 posted on 01/10/2011 12:27:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If memory serves a Chinese businessman bought the Varyag from Russia, claiming he was going to make a casino out of it. Now they want to buy Invincible to make a disco?


33 posted on 01/10/2011 12:28:49 PM PST by K-Stater
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