How Can America “Thrive” with a Liar and Fraudster in the Office of the Presidency?

The Post and Email Blog ^ | Jan. 13, 2011 | Comment Left by a Reader

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

CBS News allowed the following comment to be published on its website, following an article about Obama’s visit to Arizona yesterday:

... Who were the doctor(s) and nurse(s) at Kapi`Olani that delivered Barack? My ex-wife worked at the hospital and I understand the records at Kapi’Olani are impeccable. Where are the foot prints? What public records exist that can even demonstrate that Mrs. Obama was even at Kapi’Olani on the day of Barack’s birth? Talk at Kapi`Olani, would have been unabashed, the city of Honolulu at the time very racist towards black people.

[TNTNT]

I am familiar with Donofrio’s blog and he posits another birther myth. There is nothing in United States Jurisprudence that states that a person cannot be a nbc if that person has dual citizenship. In fact it is just the opposite. There is a reason why Donofrio has gotten nowhere in court with that argument either in court or with any legal scholars. There have been other POTUS and VPOTUS that had dual citizenship, including off the top of my head, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson and Spiro Agnew. I am sure there are others.

[melancholy]

Don’t be shifty with me. Grapevine won’t work here.

We need to see the applications to several schools, foreign student scholarships, who paid for his education and yes, GBAs for the AA messiah, etc.

So you have the Harvard record down pat, fine, give me a link to see his published degree(s), the papers he wrote as the Grand President of the Law Review, any and all records.

What is 0b0z0 hiding and what are you afraid of? Do you even know who this guy really is?

I couldn’t get a job without records, including but not limited to, my passport that says where I was born!

Come to think of it, it would have been much easier to apply for POTUS than a corporate job!

Don’t forget to dig up the Harvard document(s) linky, yeah?

[TNTNT]

Are you claiming Harvard University lied about Obama being President of the Law Review or graduating Summa Cum Laude?

[Red Steel]

The 14th Amendment changed the definitions of citizenship and made for national citizenship rather than state citizenship. No legal scholar, statute passed by Congress or any decision by every court in the US in the last 110 years says different.

Nothing you state here even helps you, although you can't honestly help BS. It is not relevant and a non sequitur.

[Red Steel]

What is 0b0z0 hiding and what are you afraid of? Do you even know who this guy really is?

That's easy Mel. Stink bomb is afraid that his usurper will get exposed for the liar that he is.

[melancholy]

Don’t give me that crap! I was trying to save you so we can toy with you a little longer.

See, it went over your head that I’m not a birther; I’m actually a ghoster who’s defined as someone who wants to find out who this ghost of a POTUS really is.

0h0m0 is WithOut Papers. Sounds like old times!

[melancholy]

He’s slipping and I’m trying to guide him away from the traps you are setting for him! LOL

Let’s see the great Harvard education record(s) link I asked Ammonium Nitrate to provide!

[TNTNT]

Well you can repeat the same garbage 10,001 times, it doesn't make it right. There are thousands of cases that use 8 U.S.C. 1401 to define NBC. If you don't believe me just Shepardize the statute. You will get thousands of cites from Immigration Court to District Court to CCA to SCOTUS. Your argument is exactly why birthers lose every case in court.

I am with the Republican Speaker of the House, John Boehner, on the question of Obama’s eligibility to be President. I have seen zero credible evidence that suggests he was born elsewhere. It is apparent that the entire Republican leadership team in Congress, both the Senate and the House, agree with me. What are there maybe 12 (less than 1%) birthers in Congress.

[TNTNT]

There is nothing shifty or grapevine in my answer. Look up the info yourself. Google can be your friend. There is even a picture on the internet of him with other members of the law Review which identifies him as President.

If you don't like Obama not releasing these records, do like me, work against his re-election, financially support and vote for his Republican opponent.

[TNTNT]

Well just keep losing those birther lawsuits. I was trying to give you some legal guidance. Keep listening to the loser birther lawyers like Taitz. I am sure they give you the advice you want hear, even 10,000 times, it's just that they are wrong every time.

[Red Steel]

Are you still dumb? ... a rhetorical question. It doesn't sheppard anything about who are natural born citizens. Again, lets take a look so any uninitiated onlooker would know you are full of crap. Basically 1401 says this:

"Part I--Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization

Sec. 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying

possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or

(B) employed by the United States Government or an international rganization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States."

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And before you go there dumb-bot, "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" before mentioned in 1401, is not what you dingbat trolls like to lie about.

I am with the Republican Speaker of the House, John Boehner, on the question of Obama’s eligibility to be President.

You be with Boehner as he appears to not have a clue, probably by design. And oh BTW, this is an illogical argument, which appears to infect dumb trolls by the thousands.

[Red Steel]

I don't worry about losing lawsuits. Your pal Obama will be toast when a half dozen states or more have ballot eligibility laws and will state that to be on the presidential ballot the candidate must be a natural born citizen. In your own words of a couple of days ago, "Viola," as in goodbye Obama.

Legal advice? LoL. For someone who always gets it wrong doesn't engender any confidence in lawyers, especially when it comes to Constitutional matters. As most of you lawyers on the left are dumber than a box of rocks.

[TNTNT]

It is the birtherbot who looks like the dumb one. You just made my argument for me. LOL A person who is a citizen at birth is a nbc. If you shepardize the statute like I previously told you to do, you would know that, and not look so ignorant. Shepards is a citation service used by all lawyers when researching the law and how the statutes and the Constitution are interpreted. I guess they didn't teach you this at the internet Law School you went to.

Boehner has more of a clue than any birther I have run into on the internet. Is Boehner part of your birther grand conspiracy also. Now I'm ROTFLOL.

[melancholy]

I just gave you the chance to provide a link for the Harvard records, GBA, papers he wrote, etc.

Another trail with Google to direct me to a picture for the Law Review members. Assuming it isn’t photo shopped, what’s your problem with supplying a link for his own documents? Again, did he write any papers? They must be non-existent or unavailable because they simply are hidden or sealed like all the rest of his records; your word isn’t good enough.

Don’t shift the conversation to Law Review pictures, that’s not what I asked you in several posts including this one.

Read my lips: Papers, records, GBAs, applications, etc. I don’t even want to start about the rest of legal records that every American has or can obtain almost immediately.

Your advice is not to vote for him, marvelous! Why didn’t I think of that? Meanwhile, let 0b0z0 dump doses of communism down our throats, I dare assume including yours, and we shouldn’t dare ask for documents that we’re being ask for every time we apply for something!

Don’t you see that you have no explanation for hiding the supposedly benign records is in itself incriminating?

Don’t come back with your Law Review shift anymore, DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WITH DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS, RECORDS, PAPERS, DEGREES, GRADUATION CLASS PHOTOS, ETC.

Where are they Mr. explosive lawyer?

[Red Steel]

You know dumb-bot, Funny [not really] that none of the Obot lawyers have mentioned 1401. If Obama was a natural born citizen he would argue that he is natural born citizen in court, but he has not. He would not hide his donkey ass behind standing issues or court justiciability.

So again is Obama a natural born citizen?

And BTW again, what was your last FR name?

Shepards is a citation service used by all lawyers when researching the law and how the statutes and the Constitution are interpreted. I guess they didn't teach you this at the internet Law School you went to.

I see you didn't notice that 1401 doesn't mention natural born citizenship either. You should ask for your money back as law school did not teach you any logic or the ability to argue worth a dang.

[TNTNT]

I can tell birthers don't care about losing lawsuits. That is the understatement of this thread. But in the real world, outside of birther fantasyland, people do care about winning lawsuits.

I am all in favor of a bill that would require a candidate to file a certified copy of a BC that complies with the standards to get a US passport to get on the ballot. That is reasonable and could possibly get passed. There is no bill that has a 2 citizen-parent if born in the USA provision that has a chance of passing in any state. That's just the real politics.

Btw, your guy Berman has totally self imploded already in the Texas House. I have been around the Texas Legislature for the past 20 years and I have never seen anyone do it faster. Even I am amazed. A friend used this phrase to describe Berman, “You just can't touch an old dog new tricks.” It aptly fits him.

[Red Steel]

I am all in favor of a bill that would require a candidate to file a certified copy of a BC that complies with the standards to get a US passport to get on the ballot. That is reasonable and could possibly get passed. There is no bill that has a 2 citizen-parent if born in the USA provision that has a chance of passing in any state. That's just the real politics.

We've seen you play your hand. You are in favor of weak legislation that lets candidates like Obama skate by. Shall I go find that Obot statement of yours for replay? As I told you before, passport standards are not good enough when it comes to presidential ballot eligibility as only a long form birth certificate will do.

There is no bill that has a 2 citizen-parent if born in the USA provision that has a chance of passing in any state. That's just the real politics.

There is a Montana bill that eligible candidates must be natural born citizens, as you should know dumb-bot, since you spewed all over that thread.

[TNTNT]

Do you have a legal way of getting what you are asking for? I frankly don't care if you believe Harvard University or not. I will believe their publications. I am not aware of any law review articles written by Obama. That is not unusual, at the law school I went, I am don't remember the President of the law review writing an article. the position is primarily editorial, part administrative and a lot of politics.

One other piece of advice for you is may be to get Congress to change the law to require disclosure of what you want. I just don't see a ground swell of support for it. Unless there is a public outcry, you may be SOL. Frankly it not an issue I see any politician pushing.

[Red Steel]

I can tell birthers don't care about losing lawsuits. That is the understatement of this thread. But in the real world, outside of birther fantasyland, people do care about winning lawsuits.

The truth is you are in favor of dishonesty and no integrity that thoroughly permeates throughout government. We can see it in your postings in the short time you have been here.

What was your last FR name before it got zotted?

[melancholy]

Liberals and communists are hiding the benign records of their boy, if they ever existed! It is because there is a lot to hide. Pure and simple.

OTOH Republicans had better pony up on demand or else!

Why do I need a legal way to find out who POTUS really is?

What a bankrupt argument! Expected, though.