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California may have the highest costs for charging electric vehicles, study says
La Times ^ | 1/14/11 | Tiffany Hsu

Posted on 01/14/2011 9:14:22 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Conservative Vet
It’s ironic that Jerry Brown had a chance for California to be a partner in the Palo Verde nuclear plant in Arizona when he was governor in the 70s. He didn’t want any part of nuclear power. He’s governor again and thanks to his policies, California doesn’t have enough generating capacity so CA buys power from PV. My brother works for Salt River Project at Palo Verde and says they charge California a pretty penny for the power.

SRP owns 15.5% of PVNGS, California utilities own 27.4%.

21 posted on 01/14/2011 11:31:46 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

My son said something in his class about coal burning power plants supplying electricity for cars. That kind of made the greenie teacher stop and think for a minute before he glared at him.


22 posted on 01/14/2011 11:48:59 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: NormsRevenge

More unintended consequences.......


23 posted on 01/14/2011 12:11:48 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Mr. K
How do you recharge your car during a rolling blackout?

Intermittently.

Or, with a backup generator. :-)

24 posted on 01/14/2011 12:14:09 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: EasySt
Anything over about 560 kilowatt hours a month puts you into tier 4 with California’s PG&E. Tier 4 is just over $0.40 per kilowatt hour. Tier 5 was recently lowered from over 49 cents per kwh to be the same as tier 4.

Outragous! Residential rates around here, including all fees and charges, are around 9.5 cents per KWH. If the tree-hugging commie, eco-fascists in your state were run off, you, too, could enjoy rates near the national average.

25 posted on 01/14/2011 12:16:30 PM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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“The tiered system was put in because California wanted to be green and discourage electricity consumption,” said Wally Tyner, an energy economist and lead researcher on the study. “The unintended consequence is that it also discourages electric vehicles.”

Well first off.....that is a lie.The tiered system was put in to pay for the billions of dollars that the state used to bail out the utility companies. The rates were supposed to go back down after the bill was paid.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-03-25/news/17589330_1_power-bills-rate-system-pg-e


26 posted on 01/14/2011 2:27:43 PM PST by sheana
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To: meyer

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jun/20/local/me-12632

Another article on it. Someone needs to check and see when these loans will be pd for. I did yrs ago but forget now when they told me they would be paid off.


27 posted on 01/14/2011 2:37:55 PM PST by sheana
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He’s governor again and thanks to his policies, California doesn’t have enough generating capacity so CA buys power from PV.

I came to CA in 1987 to help restart the Rancho Seco Nuclear plant near Sacramento.

Then in June 1989 while at 100% power the voters of that fine state, on a ballot initiative; asked for the plant to be shut down.

The media basically did all they could to make the plant operator look bad, over things like purchasing uniforms for staff.

So CA voters got what they wanted.

I finally left the state for a much more sane Colorado in 2008.

28 posted on 01/15/2011 9:13:59 AM PST by cicero2k
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